***FIFA11 PS3 10v10 Club***

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I think the only other person that needs adding currently is G-Man. I think that Nick G will ask us when he is ready. Hello Mr HTK, welcome back. :)

EDIT: Just a quick edit, I'll be online tomorrow evening probably from 6pm onwards and will most definitely be looking to get more people involved tomorrow. Hopefully we'll see Jojo, Baplad, Jonny and Pol online, Skip should be on next week too and I wouldn't mind seeing G-Man on as well if possible. Oh, and I've just been reading the Xbox 360 club thread... quite funny how when this thread was set up we were savaged with posts saying how unfair it was that we were setting requirements, that it wasn't up to us to say who could and couldn't play (lol) and that we were being harsh. Well, it turns out that their club has totally gone balls up due to in-fighting, lack of communication, making the club public to any player (big mistake) and people never sharing positions which is something that we have said will 100% be in effect from day one, so I'd just like to take a moment to point out that we were right and they were wrong.

*ahem* :p
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The 360 club falls apart every year. They've just made the process more efficient this year.

Our core regulars kept this club going for the last 3 years.
 
skippi90 said:
The 360 club falls apart every year. They've just made the process more efficient this year.

Our core regulars kept this club going for the last 3 years.
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The part I particularly liked was last year I was blamed by a certain someone for ruining the club and driving him away to make his own breakaway club. This year exactly the same thing has happened and I only see one common denominator.
 
This year, I want people to be OK with commenting on other people's play btw guys. And for people to be OK with having their play commented on. It's the only way that:

A: It can stay enjoyable for everyone
B: You improve as a player
C: Nobody gets all Bruce Banner - Gamma Rays

So, offer advice, and take advice on board.

This can either be done on here, in the PS3 Chat, or privately via PSN message.
 
got mine up to 82 ish.(tho it says 83 or 86 in the game??) specced to RM, CAM, anywhere midfield or RW, LW. Of course happy to play ANY or cdm if needed.
At the point where the main ones i havent got are due to amount of games/goals/passes you need to do and freekicks which is annoying.

Ohh and just a headsup i cannot cross to the near post so run to the back post ehh :D ...special skills are lofted through balls and off the ball runs as always ;)
 
Surfer said:
got mine up to 82 ish.(tho it says 83 or 86 in the game??) specced to RM, CAM, anywhere midfield or RW, LW. Of course happy to play ANY or cdm if needed.
At the point where the main ones i havent got are due to amount of games/goals/passes you need to do and freekicks which is annoying.

Ohh and just a headsup i cannot cross to the near post so run to the back post ehh :D ...special skills are lofted through balls and off the ball runs as always ;)
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The number in the accomplishment book is your true OVR, the number on the scoreboard is your OVR + form. :)
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
The part I particularly liked was last year I was blamed by a certain someone for ruining the club and driving him away to make his own breakaway club. This year exactly the same thing has happened and I only see one common denominator.
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skippi90 said:
The 360 club falls apart every year. They've just made the process more efficient this year.

Our core regulars kept this club going for the last 3 years.
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Though I understand the sentiment - it is a shame since we know how good/addictive Club is, I dont think we would cope too well with a load of noobs on at the same time - I even went in that thread to try and help...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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skippi90 said:
This year, I want people to be OK with commenting on other people's play btw guys. And for people to be OK with having their play commented on. It's the only way that:

A: It can stay enjoyable for everyone
B: You improve as a player
C: Nobody gets all Bruce Banner - Gamma Rays

So, offer advice, and take advice on board.

This can either be done on here, in the PS3 Chat, or privately via PSN message.
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I suck - got one of the most developed VPs in Club (60+% completed) but I so suck :/. My first touch is terrible as I always seem to concede possession but dont know what Im doing wrong. Tips welcome, though I already am using the r stick as soon as I get the ball to tell my player how to cushion it - maybe Im doing that wrong/early/late?!?

As soon as Ive got it under control Im ok, but a lot of times Im quick passing just because I dont trust my players first touch. Also finding a lot of games are treacly and feel totally different to offline play while the odd one or two are like Im playing a local game...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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It is a shame Poly, but if they are unwilling to make changes to the way things are run then of course things like that will happen to their club. Unfortunately it's what happened last year, someone joins and then invites 4 or 5 of their mates who are completely reluctant to do anything other than play up front and **** everyone else off, as you say if there is no vague leadership or basic rules put in place then the whole thing is destined to be a chaotic mess.

As for the first touch thing, I only think the right stick is useful if you are in open space trying to run away from a defender to deliver a cross, I don't think it has much place in open play besides that. The thing that works best for me when receiving the ball is to either press nothing or try to turn away from where I think the defender is going to come in from, with the left stick. In 11 I think the right stick's only useful deployment is when sprinting down the wing with an attacker behind you, or if you are trying to get through a gap and think a sudden speed burst will help, although for me 99% of the time it doesn't help and just concedes possession so I don't bother doing it anymore and just pass backwards. Which brings me to another point I was going to bring up. I think that Bap is quite reluctant to pass backwards, a fair few times I've seen a defender closing him down and instead of just passing backward to the defense he will try and play an ambitious lobbed through ball over the top, which will more often than not just go to a defender on the opposition team and then we leave ourselves susceptible to a counter attack. I think it's better just to keep things simple, give it a kiss, and play it back to the defence if you feel you're under pressure.

I can appreciate he has played ANY a fair few times on the past few occasions that we've played and that is something I hope we can rotate a little more. I know Poly has issues with lag and therefore I don't think it's a good idea if he ANY's until those issues are resolved. We've played some good stuff in the past week or so and on the whole I can't complain, but I just think at times I am screaming out for something simple to be done and time and time again the over ambitious is tried above the simple but effective. Yes, lofted through balls are quite powerful in this, but only if the forwards are either tall enough to effectively bring them down, strong enough to muscle away the defenders or quick enough to get to the through ball before the defence. I think we need to rely more on both flanks as well, as I know Bap prefers that right hand side where his VP plays but like I said the other day, the ball went down the left flank where I was, once in the entire half and we scored from the resulting cross. Whereas it went down the right flank every other time that first half and nothing came of any of the attacks.

I don't want to solely single out Bap because he does offer a pacey VP but I think there are a couple of things that need to be ironed out, one is the lofted through ball, it works, but if you try it several times and it doesn't work then don't keep on doing it, it's pointless and in that scenario we need a different tactic. The wing play, switch it a bit more instead of relying heavily on the right hand side as the other day Poly and I barely got a sniff of the ball when we were playing on the left flank, and one other thing, when the ball bounces out from a corner to the edge of our opponents box, please don't try and shoot if you're a generic, all it does is wastes an opportunity and gives the ball back to the opposition. That's all I have to say really, I know it looks as if I'm being overly critical but if we can stop these sort of things now then we can really start dominating other teams as our play on the whole is quite good. I'm not saying I'm perfect or that nobody else makes mistakes but these are the issues that stand out the most to me.
 
Furbs said:
i really really cant do free kicks, any advice?
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The only advice I can really offer is dont try to get it over the wall because its much harder until you get the FK trait and actually swerve it around the wall. Not the best advice but until I realised that I hadnt scored a FK and now Ive scored 2 using that.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
As for the first touch thing, I only think the right stick is useful if you are in open space trying to run away from a defender to deliver a cross, I don't think it has much place in open play besides that. The thing that works best for me when receiving the ball is to either press nothing or try to turn away from where I think the defender is going to come in from, with the left stick. In 11 I think the right stick's only useful deployment is when sprinting down the wing with an attacker behind you, or if you are trying to get through a gap and think a sudden speed burst will help, although for me 99% of the time it doesn't help and just concedes possession so I don't bother doing it anymore and just pass backwards.
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Ive been using rstick as per the manual as supposedly it allows the player to accept the ball and cushion it in that direction (maybe thats why they take it off me?!?) so I try and do that away from the attacker - I always tried to accept the ball and lstick away from attacker anyway in past Clubs and lay off the pass as thats my style. Is holding R2 while accepting the pass helpful? Shieldings no way as good/easy as it was in 10.
K1LLSW1TCH said:
...he will try and play an ambitious lobbed through ball over the top, which will more often than not just go to a defender on the opposition team and then we leave ourselves susceptible to a counter attack. I think it's better just to keep things simple, give it a kiss, and play it back to the defence if you feel you're under pressure.
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Well you know my thoughts about how I think we should play but just wanted to add that because of the very limited stamina in 11 Club (which is gonna be an issue even with 100% VPs) when such balls are being played you start to really feel how wasteful balls affect your players stamina throughout the game. Its definitely worth removing this from our play - lofted through balls in conjunction with stealing the ball on the second touch are really useful but only effective over short distances, especially when the receiving player is aware of it.

This brings me to 2 points - Ive noticed when we have done these long lofted balls from midfield that we are always contesting with (relatively organised) defence but in a couple of the matches on Friday when people tried the same to us it was going past our defence leaving the attacker through on goal (in one match it happened multiple times). FIFA still plays with a high defence so I suggest we leave it on a defensive stance. Its also obvious that these balls are far more potent on a quick counter than as part of a move that allows the defence to regroup.

My other point is that useful comms seem essential in 11, Baps worked out a way to get them to work but Ill leave him to list the procedure. I do think we need some from of communication where rather than potentially everyone off the ball asking for the pass (which I can see causing trouble but being not too bad considering who is playing) that when you are on the ball and you do a non-standard simple pass that you say what you are doing and who to (i.e. Joj sending a chip your way) - just so they can get ready to accept it rather than be surprised by it and react slower than the opposition.
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I can appreciate he has played ANY a fair few times on the past few occasions that we've played and that is something I hope we can rotate a little more. I know Poly has issues with lag and therefore I don't think it's a good idea if he ANY's until those issues are resolved.
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Fair play to him, I think for me sometimes I feel like Im making excuses and psych myself out for no reason, but it does feel like in some games I have this small delay in everything I do and so just lose the ball and in a few I can do what I please and pick out people with ease - its night and day.

Bap to bring up your point from chat on Friday - I keep asking if you are ok as ANY, because I dont want you to feel you are stuck there because no one wants to do it. Ill happily do it if required, its really a position that eventually should be part of the rotation. My only point is to look up and assess where people are because usually one of us is in a lot of space so the pass should be obvious, even though it might not be heading directly towards goal.

I also dont think 433 helps - it does allows us to be wide to ping in crosses, but its very isolating so difficult to do quick short passes and play through the middle - think I prefer 442 from how Ive seen us play it in 11 as a good CM/CAM pulls defenders to them while on the ball and gives space for STs and still gives the width (considering how speedy a winger is) to put in crosses. Not sure of the value of 41212 as we havent tried it but it was our favoured form in FIFA 10...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Well i was on friday but i didnt see anyone bar KILL and he didnt message me to tell me it was on so i didnt think you guys were doing it. I am not at all atm im just really into F1 and so havent been on Fifa. I am on Fifa now though if its happening.
 
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