FINALLY A DEAL ON GPU'S - IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG (NVIDIA 3060 & 3060Ti) !!

Psycho Sonny · 17 Aug 2021 at 21:30

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
GDDR6. The lowest model to use it is the RTX3070TI,which you can see has not so great performance/watt.

Should hold up fine then. If not limit the power to 95% and it should give same performance after tweaking the core and memory as far as it goes at that power limit but much better in terms of cooling and noise

gpuerrilla · 17 Aug 2021 at 21:30

Although the nvidia cards sound good and do have the more polished suite of features (broadcast, dlss, rtx) when you actually compare the benchmarks AMD do ok on the fps, this is even before some 'reviewers' bias off and mention this is not tested on FSR.

All AMD has to do to bury the hatchet is a) get a chunk cheaper b) up the game on the software suite so that the tools are just as useful (reliable).

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Aug 2021 at 21:40

Th0nt said:
Although the nvidia cards sound good and do have the more polished suite of features (broadcast, dlss, rtx) when you actually compare the benchmarks AMD do ok on the fps, this is even before some 'reviewers' bias off and mention this is not tested on FSR.

All AMD has to do to bury the hatchet is a) get a chunk cheaper b) up the game on the software suite so that the tools are just as useful (reliable).

AMD pricing on the RX6800/RX6900 was "OK". However,pricing on the RX6700XT wasn't as well received by reviewers(at least it had more VRAM was cheaper than the RTX3070),and the RX6600XT,is more like mining time,is money time level pricing.

Next year is going to be "fun".

gpuerrilla · 17 Aug 2021 at 22:08

Im not keen on hearing the next gen are going to be guzzling power again, its obvious they will not be cheaper than this gen either.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Aug 2021 at 22:11

Th0nt said:
Im not keen on hearing the next gen are going to be guzzling power again, its obvious they will not be cheaper than this gen either.

Its totally not because the good silicon is going to laptops first! Then they can put on a triple slot cooler,push the voltage upwards and charge even more monies! :cry:

Tute · 17 Aug 2021 at 22:36

Th0nt said:
Im not keen on hearing the next gen are going to be guzzling power again, its obvious they will not be cheaper than this gen either.

It's very strange, I thought the world was moving to be more "efficient" and "sustainable". I wonder if legislation might be coming if gaming PC power requirements start to skyrocket - it sounds absurd but we've already had the same thing regarding vacuum cleaners and lightbulbs.

D1craig · 17 Aug 2021 at 22:41

Tute said:
It's very strange, I thought the world was moving to be more "efficient" and "sustainable". I wonder if legislation might be coming if gaming PC power requirements start to skyrocket - it sounds absurd but we've already had the same thing regarding vacuum cleaners and lightbulbs.

its already happened in the US

D1craig · 17 Aug 2021 at 22:41

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its totally not because the good silicon is going to laptops first! Then they can put on a triple slot cooler,push the voltage upwards and charge even more monies!

is that what nvidia did this generation?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Aug 2021 at 23:00

D1craig said:
is that what nvidia did this generation?

The mobile RTX3060 uses the full GA106 GPU,the desktop one uses a lower quality bin with disabled shaders. Also,the mobile RTX3080M used the full GA104 GPU found in the RTX3070,before a desktop version came out,ie,the RTX3070TI. However,the RTX3070TI has very poor performance/watt,so it does looks like a parts bin special,with full GA104 GPUs which couldn't be used for the RTX3080M,and leftover GDDR6X.

Joxeon · 17 Aug 2021 at 23:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The mobile RTX3060 uses the full GA106 GPU,the desktop one uses a lower quality bin with disabled shaders. Also,the mobile RTX3080M used the full GA104 GPU found in the RTX3070,before a desktop version came out,ie,the RTX3070TI. However,the RTX3070TI has very poor performance/watt,so it does looks like a parts bin special,with full GA104 GPUs which couldn't be used for the RTX3080M,and leftover GDDR6X.

The GDDR6X accounts for a lot of the extra power considering the Ti only has around 250 extra cuda cores and a 50mhz clock bump yet uses 70w more.

I'd imagine if Nvidia had made the 3080 with standard GDDR6 it would only pull around 260w also.

Harbz · 17 Aug 2021 at 23:31

I missed this deal - is another one coming up soon?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Aug 2021 at 23:33

Joxeon said:
The GDDR6X accounts for a lot of the extra power considering the Ti only has around 250 extra cuda cores and a 50mhz clock bump yet uses 70w more.

I'd imagine if Nvidia had made the 3080 with standard GDDR6 it would only pull around 260w also.

The full GA104 die first appeared in the RTX3080M,so it wouldn't surprise me if the full dies which are a leakier,just ended up in the RTX3070TI. I don't think it can be just the GDDR6X because the RTX3080 uses more GDDR6X chips but does not consume much more power:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-founders-edition/34.html

shamus21 · 18 Aug 2021 at 04:42

Psycho Sonny said:
Yeah but if they have skimped on VRM, etc then surely they have skimped on everything else.

It's why the top end cards like suprim x and strixx have the best power availability, etc as they have the cooling and build quality to match.

and the highest prices. by the time you paid up and overclocked it to the max you would have been better of spending that sort of money on the next card higher up in the range.

shamus21 · 18 Aug 2021 at 04:45

EdGey said:
I'm not convinced the cooling will be poor as the OC version has a significantly better cooler than the none OC version and it's not a hot running card to begin with. I'll report back either way with my findings. I have no interest in a noisy or hot card so here's hoping.

Personally, I don't know why you'd ever bother buying a super high-end 3060ti other than availability pressures - might as well just get a 3070 at that price point.

Same here.

shamus21 · 18 Aug 2021 at 04:50

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The mobile RTX3060 uses the full GA106 GPU,the desktop one uses a lower quality bin with disabled shaders. Also,the mobile RTX3080M used the full GA104 GPU found in the RTX3070,before a desktop version came out,ie,the RTX3070TI. However,the RTX3070TI has very poor performance/watt,so it does looks like a parts bin special,with full GA104 GPUs which couldn't be used for the RTX3080M,and leftover GDDR6X.

The RTX3070 Ti are very poor value very little in it for the money even if you buy at FE pricing.

shamus21 · 18 Aug 2021 at 04:59

Psycho Sonny said:
There is a YouTube reviewer that has reviewed every card out there against each other and inno3d were literally the worst you could buy. Like top 5 bottom out of 50 odd cards.

My take on this video round up is any one of those cards will do the job. Overclocking these days give very little in performance boost and is not worth the spending the extra and in some cases very large amounts of money for better cooling and components.

Only two things to consider

1. graphic card availability

2. price

Blackburn1982 · 18 Aug 2021 at 09:48

Mine arrived this morning just before 9.
It's replacing a 1060 6GB (the giant Asus 3 fan one) - It's obviously a fair bit quicker, once it reached around 65-70 degrees you can hear the fans a bit but its nothing crazy or annoying, and would probably be made a little better with a slight undervolt or for those with better case cooling than I have it might not even be an issue.

The Haribo's sadly although in the box, have been claimed by the kids

Major774 · 18 Aug 2021 at 09:59

Got the card but no Haribo’s!

Time for a gaming session to get over it haha.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 18 Aug 2021 at 11:35

shamus21 said:
The RTX3070 Ti are very poor value very little in it for the money even if you buy at FE pricing.

Yes,and it drinks power too!

gpuerrilla · 18 Aug 2021 at 11:38

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Yes,and it drinks power too!

but but... <looks at shiny nvidia logo>