Finally a judge with some sense?

No. The onus is on them to provide evidence to back up their claim. Or you since you're the one making the claim. So provide it.

I'll give you a clue btw...rainn.org provide numbers and it doesn't back up your point of view.
In which case the onus is on Chris to back up his claim about immigrants, as he was the one that brought it up first.

Either way this is now completely off topic, it's not an immigrant thread...
 
In which case the onus is on Chris to back up his claim about immigrants, as he was the one that brought it up first.

Either way this is now completely off topic, it's not an immigrant thread...
Chris did make a claim about immigrants. Sliver however made a different claim, one that race...not immigration status makes no difference.

He's now changed his argument to sayinget white people do rape more women in this country. Something which is different to his original argument.
 

I'm not sure how that proves anything about immigrants and rapists.

From the article

One of the few police forces to have begun recording the figures of reported gang rape is the Metropolitan Police. In 2008 alone, they received reports of 85 gang rapes. Using the Met's definition of gang rape – those involving three or more perpetrators – we began to look at the number of convictions. We tracked down 29 cases, from January 2006 to March 2009, in which a total of 92 young people were convicted of involvement in gang rape.

One fact stood out. Of those convicted, 66 were black or mixed race, 13 were white and the remainder were from other countries including Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

So that says 13 were from "other countries including Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.". Being black or mixed race doesnt mean you're an immigrant, and a large proportion of that is attributed to gang culture.
 
Amp...read my last post. Slivers link was not about immigration status. It was about race.
 
Chris did make a claim about immigrants. Sliver however made a different claim, one that race...not immigration status makes no difference.

He's now changed his argument to sayinget white people do rape more women in this country. Something which is different to his original argument.
Ahh, I must have missed the post where it changed to race from immigration. :)

Edit: and that's also a reply to your post just above this one too.
 
Amp...read my last post. Slivers link was not about immigration status. It was about race.

Not just about race. Read it again, it mentions several demographics. As usual you are using a straw man fallacy against me.

There is no typical rapist. People who commit sexual violence come from every economic, ethnic, racial, age and social group.
 
Ahh, I must have missed the post where it changed to race from immigration. :)

Edit: and that's also a reply to your post just above this one too.

Don't follow your edit I'm afraid! However yes, the point I was challenging was that race seemingly makes no difference when statistics indicate that it does. As I say, Chris is making a different argument and quite frankly he's on his own as I have no clue whether he's right or wrong and I'm not entirely sure the stats are available either.
 
Immigration touches many aspects of UK life :)

Given comments by Chris I decided to check for myself.

"Myth: Men of certain races and backgrounds are more likely to commit sexual violence.

Fact: There is no typical rapist. People who commit sexual violence come from every economic, ethnic, racial, age and social group."


https://rapecrisis.org.uk/mythsvsrealities.php

It never changed AMP, this is just Dis distorting the truth again.

Sure Sliver...sure...
 
Don't follow your edit I'm afraid! However yes, the point I was challenging was that race seemingly makes no difference when statistics indicate that it does. As I say, Chris is making a different argument and quite frankly he's on his own as I have no clue whether he's right or wrong and I'm not entirely sure the stats are available either.

I didn't see your first reply about the change of subject, and only saw the second after I posted, hence the edit. :p
 
I didn't see your first reply about the change of subject, and only saw the second after I posted, hence the edit. :p

Ah right, I'm on board now! Anyways aye, I look forward to Chris fighting his corner on that one although as pointed out it's not the reason I made the thread.

Back on the original topic it looks like the judge is coming in for more flak and as expected few are willing to defend her as straight away they're getting hit with the rape apologist tag.
 
She's likely only said it because she's retiring, had she said it as an acting judge she'd probably have been force out by the PC brigade.
 
She's likely only said it because she's retiring, had she said it as an acting judge she'd probably have been force out by the PC brigade.

Without a doubt. Old people these days, being able to say whatever they want and get away with it! :p
 
She's likely only said it because she's retiring, had she said it as an acting judge she'd probably have been force out by the PC brigade.

Whatever the reason I'm sure she regrets it now. Not exactly ending on a high note. I think she probably felt this way all along and has by association been making bad sentencing calls regarding this issue throughout her career.
 
Whatever the reason I'm sure she regrets it now. Not exactly ending on a high note. I think she probably felt this way all along and has by association been making bad sentencing calls regarding this issue throughout her career.

Bahahahaha and there goes all your credibility on the matter
 
Bahahahaha and there goes all your credibility on the matter
What on earth?

Saying that she probably felt this way many years before she actually said something, suddenly means Sliver loses credibility?

I despair at the intelligence levels here sometimes.

She could have been thinking what she's finally said for the last 30 years lol. And it's most likely there was a substantial period of time between her initial thoughts and then actually saying something about it.
 
Why lol ?¿?

As usual you've taken something said and made a horrendous assumption out of it.

I don't see how her comments which are entirely common sense for any rational thinker mean she made bad rape case decisions throughout her career?
 
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