Finally ready to buy £27.5k max

It is not that clear cut when you take depreciation into account as currently the 993 has pretty rock solid residules but no matter how it may look on the surface a 911 will cost more in running costs, they just do and even more so if they go wrong which they can and do. When people look at running costs they look at best case typically and then regret this when a new bit of plastic needs swapping and they find out its £200!

Servicing will be much more expensive as there are always bits that need swapping and pork bits are expensive. Also you will be looking at a much older car so the risk of stuff happening and it costing big are quite high. You could be fine of course but the potential for the 993 to cost you a lot of money is high.
 
Kingy said:
I don't think he's disputing that the 993 will cost more to run than a 330d, more that the TCO could be comparable. Remember, you did say that an 2004 330Cd would have depreciated by an average of over £4k per year...
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You don't actually need to find £4k in your back pocket to pay the depreciation man every year though, yet your Porsche dealer will want in excess of £2-3k every year. On top of the £25k you've just paid for the car.

Which lets face it, unless he's bill gates son, he probably doesnt have kicking around at 24.
 
Reality Bites said:
which makes the thread a little pointless?
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How so? I didnt say he couldnt buy a £27.5k car I said it's unlikely he can buy a £27.5k Porsche *and* maintain it. Which is probably why he wants a 330 diesel and said low depreciation and economy is important to him. Are those the words of an air cooled Porsche enthusiast?
 
Yup, I am looking for economy most of all while not being slower than my old 210 MCS, depreciation as I said before I may have been a little ambitious. Whereas I can afford to maintain a car for 2-3k a year (in fact I am surprised if anyone on a decent wage can't) I wouldn't feel particularly good about it even if its is a Porsche, plus I am not so big on flashy cars.

As for the question of why I cant decided what the spend this amount of money on, I have, I just wanted opinions on realistic alternatives, and just how delusional my depreciation estimates were (all of which I got in spades). Though few alternatives mentioned and even fewer I would consider, I am not so much interested in old cars as such (well there are exceptions but nothing I would consider for the British climate), and older BMW's, Audi's and Merc's look dated to me once you have seen their modern counterpart.

As you may have gathered have a rather odd sense of economy (perhaps none), but I do know what I like.

Side note on my spelling, since when did anyone with a life outside internet forums care how their spelling or grammar came across, unless it was completely unintelligible which it obviously was not if people can reply to it with somewhat constructive comments on the topic.
 
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It does seem a little odd spending £27.5k (rather precise amount :p) but being worried about economy. Why not adjust your budget a bit to take account of the higher running costs.
 
A4 TDI, Merc C class diesel and so on would be the obvious alternatives. You could also look at the Audi TT, but it won't be so good on the fuel.

I think the problem was that you said one car, and a whole load of specifications that neither that car, nor really any other car on the market meets.

And £2-3k a year is not enough to run an 8 year old + 911 if even the slightest thing goes wrong, it'll barely cover the servicing.

Running through what you've said, you want something fairly economical, reasonable comparable depreciation, not flashy, not a hatchback, not something common like a VW or Ford...

The way I see it, you've got a choice, you can either take the hit on depreciation (as cars that fit the other above criteria tend to depreciate quite a lot as they are mundane, especially when spending this sort of cash), or change the other criteria.

As depreciation is not cash in your pocket, it's the 'cheapest' way of doing it. But then you get into looking whether you can get a similar car for less money.
 
--ki-- said:
Side note on my spelling, since when did anyone with a life outside internet forums care how their spelling or grammar came across,
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You dont care how you come across? Some people take the opinion that if someone cannot be bothered to take the time to properly form a post, they cannot be bothered to offer advice..
 
[TW]Fox;11193375 said:
You dont care how you come across? Some people take the opinion that if someone cannot be bothered to take the time to properly form a post, they cannot be bothered to offer advice..
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Since my posts have not been unintelligible, not really, if it puts people of replying then I am hardly bothered.
 
Dolph said:
A4 TDI, Merc C class diesel and so on would be the obvious alternatives. You could also look at the Audi TT, but it won't be so good on the fuel.
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So you would think but their economy and performance figures dont really stand up to the 330Ds.
 
The more I read this thread the more I think that spending £27.5k on a car is absolutely NOT the best thing for you to do.

You don't seem to be absolutely manically into cars to the extent that you are happy to make sacrifices to end up with what you want, you strike me as someone who just wants a really nice car. Nothing wrong with that but £27.5k is a LOT of money, especially for someone who has mentioned the words depreciation and house deposit.

£10k buys a LOT of flash these days. Buy a nice E46 for £10k.
 
Before this goes any further I never expected the car to appreciate and fully expected a sharp depreciation, it was just a matter of how much money I was going to lose.

Your right Fox I am not manically into cars, but I do like to drive a lot, as mentioned also housing deposits dont factor in as thats already accounted for.

Considering the amount the car will lose I will probably keep it indefinately. Its just that I have enouh money now to buy something nice but didn't want to comparmise too much.
 
£10k buys some awesome cars with very little need to compromise.

What about a 330Ci Sport for about £12k? Will get a nice one. Ok not as economical but youve saved like 15k...
 
£27,500 is a huge amount of money to spend on a car... even moreso if you aren't really after something specific. Do what Fox suggests - lower your sights and you'll find there is an enormous range of good cars for ~£10,000, none of which will depreciate as much as your initial suggestion!
 
[TW]Fox;11194333 said:
£10k buys some awesome cars with very little need to compromise.

What about a 330Ci Sport for about £12k? Will get a nice one. Ok not as economical but youve saved like 15k...
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wise words from the Foxster

instead of thinking, how much can i spend on a car and finding something for it, instead think what is the minimum i can spend to get what i want ?

As said you've already saved yourself 15k over your predicted spend,but still got a nice car to show for it.
 
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