Fiona Bruce

Twitter is a dumpster fire when it comes to news etc.... looking at some trending hashtag tends to just reveal noise.

It's useful though if you're just looking at your own feed where you're following specific people - there have been some good accounts to follow by various academics re: Covid19 for example.
 
StriderX said:
Most jobs are low skill, in fact i'd say a solid majority of the workforce could be replaced with a machine right now, instantly reduce the cost of production (ergo increase everyone's quality of life) through a massive rise in productivity and incentivise creative industries, invention and business start-ups in a single swoop.

But no, there's perverse incentives to stop this obviously beneficial act for politicians addicted to pumping up employment.
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Automation taking over will never happen, keeping everyone in work is the easiest way of controlling a population. If automation does happen, look out for more 'busy work' type jobs being created.
 
Yas786 said:
Lol geezus Twitter is just a crap storm in all honesty. Thank god I don’t use that stupid platform.
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majority of option - sounds like a democracy.

the only difference is it’s “not real” vs talking face to face, so inhibition and normal filtering disappears along with the speed reduces time of thought before a response. The question is - is a democracy really showing the majority vote vs a platform like Twitter?
 
NickK said:
majority of option - sounds like a democracy.

the only difference is it’s “not real” vs talking face to face, so inhibition and normal filtering disappears along with the speed reduces time of thought before a response. The question is - is a democracy really showing the majority vote vs a platform like Twitter?
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By majority do you mean vocal minority?

How are you able to compare it democracy given the ability to create fake accounts, bots and other impacting factors?

I’m not disputing the power of it or the volume.
 
I don't see what the fuss is about it's probably the Communist revolutionaries trying to turn the working class against the bourgeois and make the most of the lock down to bring about their World Revolution.
 
mmj_uk said:
I don't see what the fuss is about it's probably the Communist revolutionaries trying to turn the working class against the bourgeois and make the most of the lock down to bring about their World Revolution.
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By bourgeois, you mean people who've been pilfering from taxpayers for decades now?

Why is one alright, but the other, not? We've had 40 years of decimating the middle class and the big lie of trickle-down neoliberalism. Maybe it's time for something different.
 
StriderX said:
By bourgeois, you mean people who've been pilfering from taxpayers for decades now?

Why is one alright, but the other, not? We've had 40 years of decimating the middle class and the big lie of trickle-down neoliberalism. Maybe it's time for something different.
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Famine, the Gulag, mass corruption, the NKVD, how different should we get? I'm excited! Fiona Bruce earning £250k definitely means we need to try something different.
 
Roar87 said:
Famine, the Gulag, mass corruption, the NKVD, how different should we get? I'm excited! Fiona Bruce earning £250k definitely means we need to try something different.
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Does it? I thought women had been campaigning for increased pay for years?!
 
Spook187 said:
She is low skilled but paid lots, same as IT bods who plug ethernet cables into computers :)
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I am totally unappreciated in my time. You could run this whole park from this room with minimal staff for up to three days. You think that kind of automation is easy? Or cheap? You know anybody who can network eight Connection Machines and debug two million lines of code for what I bid for this job? Because if he can, I'd like to see him try.
 
Roar87 said:
Yeah this is a different group of people sharing a group identity complaining about unfairness though, one day we'll all be equal though Comrade.
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Bah. We just can't win. They keep finding a new sjw quest to embark upon!
 
Angilion said:
But some group identities will be more equal than others, of course.
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Clearly, billionaires being the prime example get the dual benefit of sweeping up all that extra work done without one single thought to the people who put them there, whilst being uniquely able to provide more for themselves through political leverage that provides less for everyone else to satiate this continued insult. The inequality is going to culminate in conflict eventually regardless of political dogma, if you want to stop a revolution, then stop the inequality. It's not hard.

I'd say have fun, but it won't be will it?

Before I get bamboozled by a fallacious argument (not pointing this at you, just generally)... No, I do not mean that we should emulate the USSR, which is an entirely ridiculous notion. Just that people should be able to live a comfortable life and feel accomplished in doing so, the literal opposite of socialism... a FUNCTIONAL capitalism. The more satiated the consumptive are, the better off everyone is, including those at the top being provided a reasonable and importantly sustainable trickle-up. This is not some impenetrable theory, it's reality and to continue fighting it will just bring inevitable suffering for everyone.

We've already tasted what it's doing to us, but that's just the first act of many.
 
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StriderX said:
Clearly, billionaires being the prime example get the dual benefit of sweeping up all that extra work done without one single thought to the people who put them there, whilst being uniquely able to provide more for themselves through political leverage that provides less for everyone else to satiate this continued insult. The inequality is going to culminate in conflict eventually regardless of political dogma, if you want to stop a revolution, then stop the inequality. It's not hard.

I'd say have fun, but it won't be will it?
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I doubt if that's possible, let alone fun, but we were talking about identity politics, not socio-economics.

Also, you don't need to stop inequality to stop a revolution. You need enough people to have enough to be unwilling to risk losing it on a gamble that is very unlikely to have a good outcome for them even if it succeeds. Revolutions usually make things worse before making them better even if things ever become better because of the revolution rather than despite it.

Before I get bamboozled by a fallacious argument (not pointing this at you, just generally)... No, I do not mean that we should emulate the USSR, which is an entirely ridiculous notion. Just that people should be able to live a comfortable life and feel accomplished in doing so, the literal opposite of socialism...
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That's not the literal opposite of socialism. It's the purpose of socialism. It's also the purpose of most social/economic/political ideologies so it's not a way to differentiate between them. You're mixing up intention and method. On top of that, all of the methods contain the possibility of inequality and thus contain inequality as money and power is chased by those who are the most fortunate, capable, ruthless or (more usually) some combination of the three. All a revolution inherently does is change who's the most fortunate and which capabilities best serve a route to money/power.

a FUNCTIONAL capitalism. The more satiated the consumptive are, the better off everyone is, including those at the top being provided a reasonable and importantly sustainable trickle-up. This is not some impenetrable theory, it's reality and to continue fighting it will just bring inevitable suffering for everyone.
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Except for the people who gain the most from the status quo and thus have both the most to lose if it changes and the most resources to maintain it. They'd suffer too if things completely collapsed, but humans have been running societies this way since at least the beginning of recorded history and can expect to continue doing so as long as revolutions are avoided or quickly suppressed.
 
There is a war of words going on. Society is being turned in on itself.

What is the problem in being called what you are? Surely people know which are low skilled jobs and which aren't?
 
Maybe we should all vote Lib Dems. Generally less well off people vote Labour and more well off vote Conservative. How about the sensible and likely more correct way of doing things that is the centre. We are a bit on the right in this country so this would be a slight move to the left for us.

I think the problem is these jobs might he lower skilled but they still require a lot of hard work and the pay is low. Cheaper education and making companies invest in education and also higher minimum wage would help. Raise corporation tax it is shockingly low

Anyway I'm not the most well off and will probably vote Labour.
 
BowdonUK said:
There is a war of words going on. Society is being turned in on itself.

What is the problem in being called what you are? Surely people know which are low skilled jobs and which aren't?
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Fiona Bruce reads from a screen, its hardly a skilled job is it?
 
200sols said:
Fiona Bruce reads from a screen, its hardly a skilled job is it?
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She hosts and presents on a number of shows, speaks very clearly and articulates points well. Put Dave from t'pub in that newsreader chair and people are tuning out after the initial laughs.
 
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