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First 5830 Review

I've been waiting for this card to upgrade to from my 4870... not sure there's any point now (especially with ATI prices as they are).

Gonna wait for 5850 prices to drop under £200 and go there instead.
 
rounddodger said:
Yup, prob worth a shot at £150 a pop though, esp in crossfire if they overclock well.
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At £150 I might get one myself, though it seems unlikely.

jmp_78 said:
I've been waiting for this card to upgrade to from my 4870... not sure there's any point now (especially with ATI prices as they are).

Gonna wait for 5850 prices to drop under £200 and go there instead.
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I would imagine the price of the 5830 will likely dictate if there's a drop in the 5850 to an extent...if you're looking for a drop in the latter then you have to hope the former is <£150.
 
If the info were true, I think it would actually make sense in a crazy sort of way. I mean look at it this way
5750=4850 sidestepping with dx11 support
5770=4870 sidestepping with dx 11 support
5870=4870x2 sidestepping with dx 11 support

now consider if 4830=4890 sidestepping with dx 11 support...doesn't it sort of make sense? lol

I guess 5850 would remain the most bang for bucks in terms of performance vs price...
 
Maybe it's just me, but I see nothing wrong with it, performance seems where it should be. What were people expecting, that it would be almost the same performance as the 5850? If so, what's the point?

Also, all this talk of power consumption makes me cringe to be honest, I mean, does it really matter? It's not going save you much money and most likely overclocking and heat output would be pretty much the same as the 5850, i.e. pretty damn good.


Really if you're concerned about too low performance, then that is more of an issue with the whole HD 5000 series, but within the confines of this series, the 5830 seems perfectly placed according to those benchmark results.
 
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Considering you can pick up 4890/5770 for ~£120 then this needs to be very aggresively priced to succeed imo. If its more then £150 ish why bother, the 5850 presents better value above that price.
 
titaniumx3 said:
Maybe it's just me, but I see nothing wrong with it, performance seems where it should be. What were people expecting, that it would be almost the same performance as the 5850? If so, what's the point?

Also, all this talk of power consumption makes me cringe to be honest, I mean, does it really matter? It's not going save you much money and most likely overclocking and heat output would be pretty much the same as the 5850, i.e. pretty damn good.


Really if you're concerned about too low performance, then that is more of an issue with the whole HD 5000 series, but within the confines of this series, the 5830 seems perfectly placed according to those benchmark results.
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I would agree with this really. For those of you who don't currently agree with me, just give me the time of day here:

The 5830 is rumoured to come in at around $250 (This is from multiple sources, the review for example lists the price in Chinese Yuan, Fudzilla lists in dollars, the conversion is about $250. I'm intentionally ignoring the leak on a UK retailer as frankly 'early' prices in the UK are almost always complete gouges. Forgive me for bringing this up, but I'll cite the 3800 series, when their prices were leaked on OcUK, they went down about £10 before actually being available for purchase on release day). The 5850 seems, on average, to be approximately $300. Therefore the 5830's price as a percentage of the 5850's price is 83%.

Now, I've taken a pool of games from that review, not all of them for various reasons (like SC2 being obviously CPU bound and SF4 being in the 100+FPS range). Here's the results:

All percentages have been rounded to the nearest 0.5%, mostly for ease of readability, aside from the mean percentage.

NFS: (64/76)*100 = 84%
FC2: (45/57)*100 = 79%
Crysis WH: (31/40)*100 = 77.5%
WiC: (42/48)*100 = 87.5%
RE5: (71/83)*100 = 85.5%
HAWX: (47/57)*100 = 82.5%

Mean percentage:
(84+79+77.5+87.5+85.5+82.5)/6 = 82.67%

That's interesting. Basically, the 5830 is almost exactly within where it should be priced. With a larger set of results, I'd expect the 5830 to appear closer to the 5850 because in most of the games tested, it is within 15% or so of the 5850. Edit: Especially because it's tested at a relatively high resolution at 8xAA, which likely emphasises its raster throughput discrepancy.
 
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A quick google revealed the following.. true or false?

The AMD 5830 GPU was to have launched on January 25, 2010. As we reported earlier, the reason for the delay was that a problem on the circuitboard was triggering an error when it underwent testing. Now more details about the 5830 have been revealed. The 5830 is to have 1280 unified shaders running at 750 MHz, 64 texture mapping units, 32 render output units, and 1 GB of GDDR5 memory running at 1 GHz. As a comparison, the more expensive 5850 has 1440 unified shaders running at 725 MHz, and 1 GB of GDDR5 memory running at 1 GHz.
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source posted on 15 Feb: http://www.vizworld.com/2010/02/amd-5830-gpu/
Mods... hope this link is ok? Please delete if not.
 
Yup, but thats with all the extra's the 5xxx series has, and when you consider the 5770's cannot even match the old 4870's in many benchmarks, it doesn't seem to unreasonable.
 
The 5770 not matching 4870 bench's are outdated I think, most comparisons I can find seem to be old drivers from last year.
Wouldn't mind seeing some 10.2 / 10.3 comparisons in the newer games though.Pretty much neck and neck though I suppose.
 
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Stonedofmoo said:
Yup, but thats with all the extra's the 5xxx series has, and when you consider the 5770's cannot even match the old 4870's in many benchmarks, it doesn't seem to unreasonable.
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Wrong!

The 5770 is pretty much bang on a 4870 now. That review was done 5th Feb with Catalyst 9.12, I'd post up the other benchmarks but as theres bloody loads - you get the idea.

In summary 5770 (Stock) = 4870 :)

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Indeed it is.

The thing the 5770 has over the 4870 1g though is that it can overclock...and do it well. The 4870 1Gb was pretty much the only crappy overclocking card I've ever owned.
 
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