First day of Mac ownership - regrets already.

Yep, I'm actually running it in Bootcamp at mo. But I don't want to have a Mac for that reason alone.
I'm sure these teething problems will cure. It's just taken the shine off the novelty.
 
Seraph said:
Yep, I'm actually running it in Bootcamp at mo. But I don't want to have a Mac for that reason alone.
I'm sure these teething problems will cure. It's just taken the shine off the novelty.
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That's a shame as new computer (and especially new Mac) ownership should be a great thing.

I had problems back when I had my "Lamp shade" imac but I solved them and it went on to give me a couple of years of pleasure. Owning my MacBook (*touches wood*) has been a thing of beauty from day one*

* I haven't had to transfer any documents apart from pictures and movies from a PC and I don't run Office 2003/8. I have ran CS3 Web Premium, Aperture 1.5 and 2.0 and iWork 08. I also did a clean install of Leopard when I got my upgrade disk so that may have helped.
 
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And for those casting aspersions such as 'trolling', I suggest you get off 'Mac vs Pc debate' high horse. This thread IS NOT about that.

This is about negating the statement everyone keeps using...Macs just work. Well actually, they don't always imo.
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ok so you installed windows XP and didn't have updates to do?? :confused: I have installed xp 3 times this week and had over 100 updates on both. That is with SP2 pre-installed.

hotmail problem is an MS problem, as is the being unable to transfer from outlook to entourage and all your office problems. MS makes the software, don't take it out on Apple.

TBH if you don't like your mac, take it back, you have 2 days to return it.

Also how can an aluminum keyboard break in half?? :confused: If i got that from the couriers i would be sending the whole lot back, because if an aluminum keyboard breaks in 2, god knows what force it was hit with, so who knows what may be wrong with other components.
 
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No, I'm talking about installing XP originally 4 or 5 years ago! Anyway, that's not a prob any more.

It is an MS problem, agreed. But none the less, it's a problem I DON'T get with XP. I'm not blaming Apple per se, but the problem is as a result of Apple undeniably.

As for the keyboard, I suspect the courier dropped something VERY heavy on it. However it simply wasn't obvious from the packaging.
 
Seraph said:
It is an MS problem, agreed. But none the less, it's a problem I DON'T get with XP. I'm not blaming Apple per se, but the problem is as a result of Apple undeniably.
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Flip it round the other way. If you were moving from OS X back to say Vista, would you still blame Apple for not being able to export data from Entourage?

With regard to updates, at least apple have the good grace to provide the 10.x.x point releases. One download and a 5 minute install and reboot is all it requires.

I rebuilt a laptop at work this week with our Slipstreamed XP SP2 build. Over 100 critical updates and it took a good hour to install them from a WSUS server on the local network. Install .net and there's a pile more after that. Takes 10 minutes to image a laptop, then another two hours let the auto updaters for Windows, Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware do their thing. Roll on XP SP3...
 
Seraph said:
No, I'm talking about installing XP originally 4 or 5 years ago! Anyway, that's not a prob any more.

It is an MS problem, agreed. But none the less, it's a problem I DON'T get with XP. I'm not blaming Apple per se, but the problem is as a result of Apple undeniably.

As for the keyboard, I suspect the courier dropped something VERY heavy on it. However it simply wasn't obvious from the packaging.
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Yeah and if you bought your mac 5 months ago you wouldn't have had any updates to download neither. Not getting the point really.

it isn't because you are switching operating system, it is because you are switching to a different e-mail program. I think you should complain to MS about not being able to swap easy.

Well like i said, i would still be sending the whole lot back as an insurance claim. it could even be the cause of the slow web speeds you are getting. The NIC could be damaged.
 
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ok so you installed windows XP and didn't have updates to do?? :confused: I have installed xp 3 times this week and had over 100 updates on both. That is with SP2 pre-installed.
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I think most people simply don't realise how man XP updates there are because they don't have automatic updates on or simply chose not to update. As a IT professional (I use the word lightly ;) ) who has dealt with both XP and OS X in a business environment I can say that Windows XP has more updates than OS X and the method of delivery isn't as good. However both operating systems need updating and often an out-of-the-box install will need some updates. Apple do at least have the decency to ship the latest point increase on new Macs.

As has been said earlier most of the OP's problems are down to Applications. Lets just hope they appreciate that the fact that is is far harder for Applications to bring the OS down.

OS X and Apple are far from perfect but I prefer OS X it just takes some getting used to! In fact my wife tried pressing F12 on her PC (or whatever the last F key is on a PC) at work, she came home and said "Is Dashboard for Macs only?" I said yes and she said that is a shame as she misses it at work.
 
Think some of you are thinking too hard, and indulging in defensive standpoints.
This is NOT about a single issue, i.e. Apparent long downloads.

It's about a collective experience not living up to expectations. Did I say anywhere I didn't like it? Exactly. It's not the product, it's the experience of transferring that's grating!
 
Seraph said:
Think some of you are thinking too hard, and indulging in defensive standpoints.
This is NOT about a single issue, i.e. Apparent long downloads.

It's about a collective experience not living up to expectations. Did I say anywhere I didn't like it? Exactly. It's not the product, it's the experience of transferring that's grating!
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To be fair, that is the only issue that Apple could be blamed for, and even then, they can't be held responsible for poor download speeds from your ISP. :)

Nobody said switching to mac was easy tbh. Did you make the decision on a whim or did you research the programs you need to switch between etc and how compatible they are?
 
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Nobody said switching to mac was easy tbh. Did you make the decision on a whim or did you research the programs you need to switch between etc and how compatible they are?
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Especially if you are a long-time Windows user. Switching for me (the first time, many years ago around the time of 10.1) was hard at first as I have been a PC/Windows user since 3.1 and a 486.

My wife who up until she hit 40 has been somewhat scared of computers took to OS X like a duck takes to water.

I now live almost entirely in OS X outside of work (trying to get work to give me either a MacBook or an iMac) and the research I did before switching has helped me out no end. There has, as there always will be, a few hiccups but it went well and unless Windows 7 is very good I will stay on OS X for my personal computer use.

Sometimes the looks I get when buying a computer peripheral and say "Is this OS X compatible?" are priceless.

Good luck with your Switch, Seraph ;)
 
Spent weeks researching. Asking as I have on here. Different forums too, not just It based.

I always knew it was possibly a gamble. It was always going to be a decision just on the line. I guess sometimes the only way is to just try it yourself, and make up your own mind.

We'll see!......
 
I switched from being a long-time Windows user to Mac osx about 6 months ago.
At first OSX annoyed me as I wanted it to do the same things for me as in Windows, and it felt awkward when i had to change the way I do some things (if that makes any sense).
To give a brief example, getting used to pressing Command+O when opening things using the keyboard rather than just pressing Enter like on windows. Also the lack of a 'film-strip' type view for picture folders irked me somewhat.

However after a few weeks, it started becoming second nature and slowly you will get used to the mac way of doing things, which sometimes is not necessarily better, just different. Eventually therell be a point when you think how you ever survived without a mac :)
 
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After one day I'm wondering if I've made a wrong decision.

Admittedly, many of my problems can prob be solved.

This is what has dented my faith:


1. Apple can be bothered to ship up to date software - upon installation, OSX needed to download updates amounting to 90hrs.

2. Safari doesn't seem particularly fast.

3. Can't transfer my info from Outlook into Entourage(doesn't support)

4. Can't get TB/Mail/Entourage to retrieve my hotmail

5. XP Word files DON'T transfer directly over to Mac Word.

6. Computer crashed within 4hrs.

7. Keyboard arrived snapped in half - ok, so prob the courier, but still annoying.


These maybe over lookable, but things need to get a lot rosier first!
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I thought "It just works"?
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I'm sorry, but there are grips with MS software running on OSX, surely the blame should be left at the feet of MS for not making things compatible/work as they are the developers of said applications?
 
very suprised at the updates, i plugged in my "holiday" mac for the first time in a year (a 12" G4 ibook) and it only had 50mb of updates
 
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Not that surprised - won't have Leopard on it!
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90 hours on an 8Meg line.

Doesn't that equate to about 1MB per minute, so over 90 hours that's 5400MB or 5 gig. Leopard wont be much more than that if it all, never mind a wee update.
 
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1. Well thats a problem with your connection then. I've always maxed my connection out (825KB/sec) whenever getting updates from Apple. Can the same be said for MS? Oh hell no! And as far as I can see, there was about 100mb of updates for my base XP SP2 installation. So therefore the same should be for yours too? And when was the MS CDs last updated? SP2?

2. Again I think it might be your connection. Beats everything I have here Inc IE6 on a faster PC.

6. My MBP hasn't crashed since I got it apart from when three bluetooth devices all tried to do the same thing at the same time and it locked. Hasn't done it since.

Luck of the draw TBH! OS X has been 99.9% trouble free. (Thats like 1 day of issues in 6 years of ownership!)
 
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