First PC Build - £2,700 - opinions please
- Thread starter MikeB888
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If you check the non-configurable parts against the pics on their website I'm pretty sure the image is accurate, but you can change some of the parts in the configurator (like the graphics card) which would give it a different look.
If you go for this
The power supply brand is not stated so probably kolink which only has a 3 yr warrenty.
I would ring them and ask to change it. A asus tuf 1200 watts is only 15 pound more and has a 10yr warrenty I think.
They do give a phone number for small changes.
The power supply brand is not stated so probably kolink which only has a 3 yr warrenty.
I would ring them and ask to change it. A asus tuf 1200 watts is only 15 pound more and has a 10yr warrenty I think.
They do give a phone number for small changes.
so I’ve heard back OCUK who have advised this build.
Lian Li O11 Vision - White
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
Kingston FURY Beast RGB 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C32 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO OC 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card -W Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Solid State Drive
Lian-Li SP750W SFX Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - White
COO-TLR-02666 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE A-RGB 1 White CPU Cooler - 120mm
SW-18K-MS Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM 1 (FQC-10528)
Total price - £2,292.
In contrast to this pre built, what are your views?
www.overclockers.co.uk
Total price - £2,199.
It looks to me, not expert in the slightest their build is much better for similar price? Or am I missing something.
Ideally I’d want the aesthetics like the prebuilt but not sure on how many fans are included on the build by OCUK?
Again, thanks for help
Lian Li O11 Vision - White
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
Kingston FURY Beast RGB 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C32 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO OC 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card -W Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Solid State Drive
Lian-Li SP750W SFX Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - White
COO-TLR-02666 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE A-RGB 1 White CPU Cooler - 120mm
SW-18K-MS Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM 1 (FQC-10528)
Total price - £2,292.
In contrast to this pre built, what are your views?
OcUK Gaming Zirconium Ice - AMD Ryzen 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming PC | OcUK
Order now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk
Total price - £2,199.
It looks to me, not expert in the slightest their build is much better for similar price? Or am I missing something.
Ideally I’d want the aesthetics like the prebuilt but not sure on how many fans are included on the build by OCUK?
Again, thanks for help
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What are the differences between them?
From what I can see (with the prebuild):
- You lose PCIE 5.0 and USB4 on the motherboard.
- You get a 7800 XT instead of a 4070 Super.
- You get a 7800X3D instead of a 9800X3D.
- You get half the RAM (32GB) and it is just 5200, though this can be changed for little extra cost.
- PSU brand/model is not specified, but superficially their PSU might be better/more powerful (is there a reason why you have a SFX PSU instead of ATX?).
- The cooler is superior (360mm AIO) and a lot more expensive.
- It might include 3x ARGB fans whereas none are present in your build.
Overall, I'd say that your build (with the 9800X3D/4070 Super) has better performance and is worth paying £100 extra, but their Phanteks AIO and the uncertainty with the fans makes it harder to judge the value of what you're getting in OCUK's build.
From what I can see (with the prebuild):
- You lose PCIE 5.0 and USB4 on the motherboard.
- You get a 7800 XT instead of a 4070 Super.
- You get a 7800X3D instead of a 9800X3D.
- You get half the RAM (32GB) and it is just 5200, though this can be changed for little extra cost.
- PSU brand/model is not specified, but superficially their PSU might be better/more powerful (is there a reason why you have a SFX PSU instead of ATX?).
- The cooler is superior (360mm AIO) and a lot more expensive.
- It might include 3x ARGB fans whereas none are present in your build.
Overall, I'd say that your build (with the 9800X3D/4070 Super) has better performance and is worth paying £100 extra, but their Phanteks AIO and the uncertainty with the fans makes it harder to judge the value of what you're getting in OCUK's build.
This was in their email….
The only modification I've made is to the power supply, you've selected an SFX unit which are typically for Mini-ITX cases, the case you've selected needs an ATX unit, see the replacement unit below.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phan...power-supply-modular-white-pow-phk-02518.html
The only modification I've made is to the power supply, you've selected an SFX unit which are typically for Mini-ITX cases, the case you've selected needs an ATX unit, see the replacement unit below.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phan...power-supply-modular-white-pow-phk-02518.html
I'd be surprised if:
- For your spec they would push that out with zero case fans installed.
- For their prebuilt, it does not come with the fans pictured.
If their prebuilt does come with everything pictured, the aesthetics are going to be better with the AIO and the extra fans and it improves the price/performance comparison versus your spec, though overall I'd still prefer the 9800X3D/4070 Super/64GB of RAM.
OCUK might have set aside some for the prebuilt PCs so I wouldn't let it bother you, if you want one I'd ask for it since at the current prices it is a no brainer upgrade.
Definitely worth getting 100% clarity on that because if you're buying partly for the aesthetics you don't want the final build to look completely different. The peerless assassin is a good saving, but maybe not worth buying if it changes the PC substantially from what you wanted.
Man of Honour
You could choose a different case that comes with fans , the Antec range are pretty good.value and comes with 7 ARGB fans.
Antec C5 ARGB Midi Tower - White
Order Antec C5 ARGB Midi Tower - White now online and benefit from fast delivery.
www.overclockers.co.uk
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@MikeB888 top is your parts, and they building it for you at that price?
so
prices on prebuild £2200
NV5 case £105
d30 reverse fan tripple pack £78
aio glacier one d30 fan £155
7800x3d £430 overpriced at mo as 9800x3d out of stock
32 gb ram £100 overpriced for old speed ram
saphire pure 7800xt gpu 450
B650-a strix mobo £190
1tb sn770 £63
psu unknown
price without psu 1570
so prebuilt is £660 more than parts less windows and psu...they've prob put the phanteks 1200 revolt in there at as way overpowered for a 7800xt, but it's expensive and they trying to get rid of stock..psu by itself is £195, then you have to get the cables as not included which are £70 for white, so paying £265 for psu and cables......hmm (there's a reason no one's buying them)..or just get the phanteks amp gh 750w for £95, 850w for £115 or 1000W for £139...cables included
don't bother with windows, they'll charge you £100 for the copy...even prebuilt you can ask for it without, and then buy a copy for fraction of price(google it)
either way you're paying way over the odds for it as the psu is overkill by far
your build
vision case white £140
9800x3d £450
asrock rs wifi £220
64gb 6400c32 £255
4070super duo £570
sp750w £125...sfx psu??why
pA 120se £40
t500 2tb £134
total £1934 without windows..prob with your build is you have no fans in the vision case and being glass at top I'd prob want ai aio on side and 3 intake at bottom sl120 £90(you'll want reverse on bottom so nice side facing in) and galahadII trinity slinf 360mm for exhaust £170...so add £260 to your build less perrless assassin...so £220...again, a lot of money for a 4070super build...at this price really s/b a 4080super in there
even with zero knowledhge, building a pc isn't hard..if you can follow lego instruction, you can build a pc. the £300 saving on having it prebuilt will bump your pc to a 4080
but if you adamant getting it built for you....
out of the 2 I'd choose the 9800x3d build, as they charging £300 to build it, just swap out you sfx psu for an atx...but you'll need to add fans etc case will look empty without them and also an oven as front side top is glass..OCuk will charge a bit more to install them...used to be £10 a fan but s/b less as they all linked together
before i say more, I have an 011d evo with 9 infinity sl fans and an air cooler...I get away with the air cooler as i have 9 fans andwith 6 pulling in air, and 3 exhaust out the top and plenty of space at back, i have plenty of airflow. It cost me a small fortune...yeah, it's ok..would i do it now...no. I've got an nv5 case also with 8 d30 fans also, but got those 2nd hand...
plenty of nice cases now that wont break the banks that come with fans
you have the C5 above..i wouldn;t go fat again so antec C3 more my style now...also look at mag pano m100r pz...matx case but can get the white msi b650M project zero mobo...gives you a clean look...don't need anything else if a 4070s...case comes with 3 reverse blaade fans intaking on side..so decent airflow coming in, so air cooler option again, and one at back pushing out, helping the cooler
so
prices on prebuild £2200
NV5 case £105
d30 reverse fan tripple pack £78
aio glacier one d30 fan £155
7800x3d £430 overpriced at mo as 9800x3d out of stock
32 gb ram £100 overpriced for old speed ram
saphire pure 7800xt gpu 450
B650-a strix mobo £190
1tb sn770 £63
psu unknown
price without psu 1570
so prebuilt is £660 more than parts less windows and psu...they've prob put the phanteks 1200 revolt in there at as way overpowered for a 7800xt, but it's expensive and they trying to get rid of stock..psu by itself is £195, then you have to get the cables as not included which are £70 for white, so paying £265 for psu and cables......hmm (there's a reason no one's buying them)..or just get the phanteks amp gh 750w for £95, 850w for £115 or 1000W for £139...cables included
don't bother with windows, they'll charge you £100 for the copy...even prebuilt you can ask for it without, and then buy a copy for fraction of price(google it)
either way you're paying way over the odds for it as the psu is overkill by far
your build
vision case white £140
9800x3d £450
asrock rs wifi £220
64gb 6400c32 £255
4070super duo £570
sp750w £125...sfx psu??why
pA 120se £40
t500 2tb £134
total £1934 without windows..prob with your build is you have no fans in the vision case and being glass at top I'd prob want ai aio on side and 3 intake at bottom sl120 £90(you'll want reverse on bottom so nice side facing in) and galahadII trinity slinf 360mm for exhaust £170...so add £260 to your build less perrless assassin...so £220...again, a lot of money for a 4070super build...at this price really s/b a 4080super in there
even with zero knowledhge, building a pc isn't hard..if you can follow lego instruction, you can build a pc. the £300 saving on having it prebuilt will bump your pc to a 4080
but if you adamant getting it built for you....
out of the 2 I'd choose the 9800x3d build, as they charging £300 to build it, just swap out you sfx psu for an atx...but you'll need to add fans etc case will look empty without them and also an oven as front side top is glass..OCuk will charge a bit more to install them...used to be £10 a fan but s/b less as they all linked together
before i say more, I have an 011d evo with 9 infinity sl fans and an air cooler...I get away with the air cooler as i have 9 fans andwith 6 pulling in air, and 3 exhaust out the top and plenty of space at back, i have plenty of airflow. It cost me a small fortune...yeah, it's ok..would i do it now...no. I've got an nv5 case also with 8 d30 fans also, but got those 2nd hand...
plenty of nice cases now that wont break the banks that come with fans
you have the C5 above..i wouldn;t go fat again so antec C3 more my style now...also look at mag pano m100r pz...matx case but can get the white msi b650M project zero mobo...gives you a clean look...don't need anything else if a 4070s...case comes with 3 reverse blaade fans intaking on side..so decent airflow coming in, so air cooler option again, and one at back pushing out, helping the cooler
As an example if you want to build yourself, the below (put 7800x3d as placeholder) upgrades your gpu from a 4070 super to a 4080super. I also put a 1tb ssd in there as well as a 2tb ssd..that way you keep the os on the 1tb, and put your games library on the 2tb..nice to have them seperate
i kept 32gb of ram...the 64gb you choose was £150 more...just doesn't seem worth it...by the times games are up there requiring more than 32gb(apart from a couple of outliers, not at mo, most still use less than 20gb), the price of 64gb will be lower as it becomes mainstream..at that point sell your 32gb for 50 and by the new stuff...spending 250 now is 150 not being utilised fully, which helps going towards the 2nd ssd or the gpu upgrade.
used a black psu, as on offer, decent price, 10 yrs warranty, and board is black and sockets all cables go into are black..don't think it'll make a huge difference..the phanteks white was £20 more..think warranty on that is 7yrs, but still a good psu as alternative...with white cables
My basket at OcUK:
as side note, was thinking about the 011 vision..you could have bottom and side fans as all intake, air cooler and stick 2 fans on back as well..the ammount of airflow going thgrough case, with the 2 fans expelling will keep positive pressure and everything nice and cool. have seen 1 build this way, but vision is all about looks..every other build uses an aio
i kept 32gb of ram...the 64gb you choose was £150 more...just doesn't seem worth it...by the times games are up there requiring more than 32gb(apart from a couple of outliers, not at mo, most still use less than 20gb), the price of 64gb will be lower as it becomes mainstream..at that point sell your 32gb for 50 and by the new stuff...spending 250 now is 150 not being utilised fully, which helps going towards the 2nd ssd or the gpu upgrade.
used a black psu, as on offer, decent price, 10 yrs warranty, and board is black and sockets all cables go into are black..don't think it'll make a huge difference..the phanteks white was £20 more..think warranty on that is 7yrs, but still a good psu as alternative...with white cables
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - White (SKU: CAS-ATC-02728) = £79.99
- 1 x Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03308) = £220.00
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £428.99
- 1 x Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCI-e 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (SFYRS/2000G) (SKU: STO-KNG-01330) = £133.99
- 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (FF4D532G6000HC30DC01) (SKU: MY-0B6-TG) = £109.99
- 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity OC White 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01495) = £989.99
- 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
- 1 x Kingston FURY Renegade 1TB PCI-e 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (SFYRS/1000G) (SKU: STO-KNG-01329) = £69.95
- 1 x B Grade Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m White CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: BG-COO-ARC-02419) = £29.98
- 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-05Z-AS) = £119.99
Total: £2,182.87 (includes delivery: £0.00)
as side note, was thinking about the 011 vision..you could have bottom and side fans as all intake, air cooler and stick 2 fans on back as well..the ammount of airflow going thgrough case, with the 2 fans expelling will keep positive pressure and everything nice and cool. have seen 1 build this way, but vision is all about looks..every other build uses an aio
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and below going with white build with the strix b650-a, 4070super and 850w psu...you're savings are substantial for what is basically the same gaming performance of the £2300 build you put together
forgot to add the arctic a36 freezer cooler...add £30
My basket at OcUK:
forgot to add the arctic a36 freezer cooler...add £30
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - White (SKU: CAS-ATC-02728) = £79.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £428.99
- 1 x Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB PCI-e 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (SFYRS/2000G) (SKU: STO-KNG-01330) = £133.99
- 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (FF4D532G6000HC30DC01) (SKU: MY-0B6-TG) = £109.99
- 1 x B Grade Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m White CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: BG-COO-ARC-02419) = £29.99
- 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO OC 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card -White (SKU: GRA-ASU-03311) = £569.99
- 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £89.99
- 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JY-AS) = £189.99
Total: £1,632.92 (includes delivery: £0.00)
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Thanks for all the info
Having looked at Antec I am really liking the C5 case with the additional fans as standard.
So keeping the 9800x3d how would you spec this case?
Again, key for me is as white as possible with performance close 2nd.
I’m not sure how much of the above would be compatible with this case so again lean on you guys that know your stuff better than I do.
I will then submit the spec that’s the best to OCUK to build.
Happy to leave out the Windows Pro and obtain elsewhere.
The advice in two separate HD is also helpful so yes a 2TB and a 1TB is what I would probably go for too. 64gb RGB RAM also.
Having looked at Antec I am really liking the C5 case with the additional fans as standard.
So keeping the 9800x3d how would you spec this case?
Again, key for me is as white as possible with performance close 2nd.
I’m not sure how much of the above would be compatible with this case so again lean on you guys that know your stuff better than I do.
I will then submit the spec that’s the best to OCUK to build.
Happy to leave out the Windows Pro and obtain elsewhere.
The advice in two separate HD is also helpful so yes a 2TB and a 1TB is what I would probably go for too. 64gb RGB RAM also.
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if you like the above you can just switch the c5 for the c3...which version do you prefer..4070super or 4080super? or mix and match..cheaper b650 mobo or just go for the x870 rs wifi(I would for the extra £30 personally)..I'd say ocuk will charge about £300 for building
very dull day at work today, so this is keeping me busy
more fun too
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below c5, 2 ssd's in there with a 4080super and 7800x3d placeholder for 9800x3d...
one thing. the 64gb ram....OCuk seem to be lacking in any decent priced white ram...put the renegade 7600c38 as cheaper than their 6400 ram kit at £260, which you might as well buy the corsair titanium at that price(which OCuk don't have either)..OCuk will be building so they can alter the speed/timings for you to run better...you never know, it may run out the box..think hu had the mobo/9800x3d running at 7600 speed on test
if you want to spend less, downgrade the gpu
My basket at OcUK:
one thing. the 64gb ram....OCuk seem to be lacking in any decent priced white ram...put the renegade 7600c38 as cheaper than their 6400 ram kit at £260, which you might as well buy the corsair titanium at that price(which OCuk don't have either)..OCuk will be building so they can alter the speed/timings for you to run better...you never know, it may run out the box..think hu had the mobo/9800x3d running at 7600 speed on test
if you want to spend less, downgrade the gpu
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Antec C5 ARGB Midi Tower - White (SKU: CAS-ATC-02730) = £109.99
- 1 x Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03308) = £220.00
- 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-05Z-AS) = £119.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £428.98
- 1 x Kingston FURY Renegade RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C38 7600MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (SKU: MEM-KNG-03177) = £224.99
- 1 x Team Group G50 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03132) = £87.95
- 1 x Team Group G50 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03131) = £47.99
- 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity OC White 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01495) = £989.99
- 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
- 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m White CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02419) = £29.98
Total: £2,259.86 (includes delivery: £0.00)
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Just spoke to OCUK
They suggest these amendments to the above spec.
“These are the alternative RAM and Cooler you will be needing. Unfortunately we have not high EXPO RAM in white than what I have linked.”
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/king...8000c36-5600mhz-dual-chann-mem-kng-02958.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ther...b-v3-all-in-one-cpu-cooler-coo-tlr-03257.html
Seems ok to me?
They suggest these amendments to the above spec.
“These are the alternative RAM and Cooler you will be needing. Unfortunately we have not high EXPO RAM in white than what I have linked.”
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/king...8000c36-5600mhz-dual-chann-mem-kng-02958.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ther...b-v3-all-in-one-cpu-cooler-coo-tlr-03257.html
Seems ok to me?
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their white ram selection is pretty poor to be honest, but x3d cpu's don't require the fastest ram to work anyway
suprised about the cooler though..a freezer 36 was tested with a 14900k and kept it from thermally throttling, so shouldn't have any problem with a 9800x3d..that being said the thermalright at £50 is cheap for a 360mm aio, so if you like it, go for it..the link comes under lga1700 cooler though, which is intel..make sure it's got the fittings for am5, but then they're building it so guess so
Me too, freezer 36 should handle it easily, though it is out of stock.