Flatmate issues

If you went into a smoker's house though, whether or not you were intending to move in would you ask them to smoke outside?

If I'd moved in here and I'd lied about being a smoker and they'd said there's no smoking it'd be one thing.

But that's not what's happened. She might live here now and even if she brought all her stuff in before realising that there was a smoker here, she would have realised within 2 minutes and therefore could have moved out again.

She has a choice remember, there are still some smoking houses left in this country you know.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US.

You lot are just a bunch of smokists.

Just smoke on the balcony, but you have been there the longest, and should have rights, plus you can smell a smoker flat she choose to stay. if the rent is cheap don't move out, I had an Issue with a girl once found out she wanted her mate to move in, she ended up leaving. If I were you I would get up early and make a lot of noise, and smoke on the balcony when flat mates are around if they have gone for the week end smoke inside ,she'll learn.
 
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Why can't you just go onto the balcony and smoke? If it's cold...wear a jacket?

Pretty selfish of you to smoke inside.

But yes this girl sounds like an immature attention seeker.
 
Continue to smoke in the house, buy earplugs and put rubber stoppers around the doors. Sorted.

As for the mess. Just enforce communal areas are kept respectable. Bitching about her room, is not your business.

This person is not your friend! Always keep that in mind.
 
Alright, just writing on here because I'm a bit wound up and it's alright for a vent.

I live in a flat with 2 people in zone 2 in London, I don't really get on with either of them but I've been here the longest. When I moved in, 2 years ago, the flat was an absolute hole but it was all I could afford then and it allowed me to smoke in the flat. Since then I've seen the washer, fridge freezer replaced, cleared the balcony (you couldn't stand on it), fixed the shower, bought and paid for almost every thing of use in this flat and generally made it a nice home.

This girl moved in about 2 months ago, just graduated and still lives like a student, can barely see the floor in her room, has no curtains and is up until 2am on the phone almost every night.

The other night I had had an awful day at work and she'd started a new job so I went in and asked her how her day was and seeing I was going to go to bed early I asked her if she wouldn't mind not slamming every single door in the flat like me and the other guy don't, for one night.

She in return told me to stop smoking in the flat.

I'm in a quitting cycle (smokers know) at the minute so I said that I definitely would be soon if she'd just bear with me. Eventually we whittled it down to I'd stop in a week.

In that week however, not only has she not stopped slamming every single door, her and her boyfriend, she's picked up annoying habits of singing at the top of her voice like she's practising for the Royal Albert Hall until 1am on a week night and at 7am on a Sunday. On top of all her other stuff like not emptying the bins etc I decided she can forget about any sort of deal.

Being a smoker doesn't make me a bad flatmate and not being a smoker doesn't make her a good one.

So last night she's been out all night and comes home at half 10 and starts banging on my door (sober) asking me why I haven't stopped. I told her that despite the deal not being anywhere close to a 50/50 swap she's not even managed to do that. It got a bit heated and I told her if she didn't like it she should move out and pay 40% more to live further away (we're very central and pay like 450 a month).

Fast forward to tonight and in she storms again guns blazing with how she's never met anyone so unutterably selfish and on and on. Then she sends her wet blanket boyfriend to give it the whole "listen mate you're a nice guy but..." routine while she hovers in the background.

By this point I've had enough and reverting to just leave me alone mode.

I know I'm being stubborn and immature about the whole mess but she moved in her when I was smoking and I do at least 70% of everything here, I do tests frequently of things like stopping taking the bins out for a few days, not buying toilet roll or washing up liquid or washing up plates when they're there and within 3 days the place is a bombsite and I cave in.

She's in her room now slamming doors for the fun of it and in a fit of hysterics (which I might add is about 2 notches down from how loud she was crying about what she saw on Benefit's St last week).

I just wanted to have a bit of a vent, you can all have a go if you want I don't care. I know I'm right and normally I wouldn't think it's worth it and cave in but really it's a bit far this time.

Is she hot?
 
Thank you for the advice about my difficult flatmate guys - thought I would give you an update on how it's all working out. Unfortunately he's still smoking in the flat but I think the door slamming and singing routine that you suggested is starting to get to him. I have reminded him that this was advertised as a non-smoking flat, but he seems to think he is the landlord rather than another tenant. Although he won't go outside to smoke he did promise to quit but he hasn't. I confronted him about this and apparently we all have to smell bad and get cancer because I didn't take the bins out one day? Anyway, my boyfriend isn't really the confrontational type so I'm teaching myself the boxing stance you recommended.

Big hugs!!!

Looks as though the OP isn't the only one living in flatshare hell.
 
you think ''why should i bother with my promise when she doesnt bother with hers''

she thinks ''why should i bother with my promise when he doesnt bother with his''


doesn't take a genius to work out where it isnt working

both sound like spoilt kids
 
As I understand this, you're just a tenant like she is, therefore have the same rights here as her? If you were the landlord yourself maybe it could be "my way or the high way".

You should smoke outside as others have suggested. I would hate to live in a house where people smoked indoors, and would not stand for it either.
 
Stop smoking, you're stinking the place out and making her and her clothes smell.

Can't you smoke outside?

Disagree. She moved in knowing he does this. It is unfair that she moves in knowing that then demanding he changes. She should just move.
 
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