Floods :(

Snow-Munki · 23 Jul 2007 at 15:38

StooM said:
The tescos on the high street is shut, but Im not sure about the bigger one

really ? was going to go after work to get some food, literally live 2 mins from there. Pants !

DAVEM · 23 Jul 2007 at 15:40

StooM said:
I wouldnt have thought the lansdown is flooded, but to be honest, Im not sure.

There was a bit of flooding on the streets, but mainly on Bath road outside weatherspoons (damn.. just missed.. ) and a few bits and peices elsewhere.

The impact on cheltenham is mainly the traffic routes in and out - last I heard the A40 to glos is still shut.

The tescos on the high street is shut, but Im not sure about the bigger one

Phew! my bike is only around the corner from the Lansdown.

Just concerned for my mates in Chelt, 14 days without mains water would be a nightmare.

To be honest if the spoons was flooded doubt anyone would notice, it all ready looks like a **** hole!

D

bledd · 23 Jul 2007 at 15:53

that's really bad mate, hope nothing unrecoverable is damaged

same goes to anyone else effected by the flooding

clv101 · 23 Jul 2007 at 15:54

wez130 said:
Everyone's quick enough to blame global warminmg, here's an alternative reason for all the rain....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6911918.stm

Eh?

That's not an alternative reason, it's the same reason.

My article says:

Meteorologists agree that the miserably wet British summer of 2007 has generally been caused by a southward shift towards Britain of the jetstream, the high-level airflow that brings depressions eastwards across the Atlantic.

Yours says:

He said a broad band of low pressure had been sitting across the UK, pushing the jet stream - a ribbon of fast moving air in the upper atmosphere - further south than usual...

Your article also says:

There is an expectation of heavier extreme rainfall events in most places as climate warms and the atmosphere becomes moister.

My article reports on a brand new paper - not published until Wednesday that offers, for the first time, evidence for this expectation. It says:

"What this does is establish for the first time that there is a distinct 'human fingerprint' in the changes in precipitation patterns * the increases in rainfall * observed in the northern hemisphere mid-latitudes, which includes Britain.

DAVEM · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:00

clv101 said:
Eh? That's not an alternative reason, it's the same reason.

My article says:
Yours says:

Your article also says:
My article reports on a brand new paper - not published until Wednesday that offers, for the first time, evidence for this expectation. It says:

I think if events like this continue (5 more perhaps) global warming will become the #1 issue world wide. I'm not overly convinced, but I'm seriously reconisdering my position on this.

Davem

PiKe · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:01

The news is saying the worst floods for 60 years, so what caused them 60 years ago then?

Zip · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:03

The world has a cycle.

Its called mother nature for a reason.

Its just PMSing At the moment

scorza · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:03

DAVEM said:
I think if events like this continue (5 more perhaps) global warming will become the #1 issue world wide. I'm not overly convinced, but I'm seriously reconisdering my position on this.

Davem

You only have to look back at the severe weather events of the last decade. The great storm of 2000, the heatwave of 2003, the drought of 2004-5. Its happening people.

Pants · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:09

I'm not jumping on the man made global warming bandwagon just yet...

I think scientist are quick to blame global warming to help boost their funds. And there is no solid proof yet that humans have anything to do with this.

clv101 · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:13

Pants said:
And there is no solid proof yet that humans have anything to do with this.

What would this actually look like... just so I recognise it when it comes along.

SB118 · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:16

Pants said:
I think scientist are quick to blame global warming to help boost their funds. And there is no solid proof yet that humans have anything to do with this.

If they could tax it, they'd find proof we're to blame for the dinosaurs dying out.

AthlonTom · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:16

clv101 said:
The obvious question is why was that new estate built there? What does the environment agency say about the flood risk of your area?

Stick your postcode in here:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/maps/info/floodmaps/

Fantastic - house was fine when I left this morning, but according to that link Its probably underwater now.

It is about 7ft below sealevel though.

Pants · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:23

clv101 said:
What would this actually look like... just so I recognise it when it comes along.

I'm sure you would hear of it through the usual media chanels etc. :confused:

DAVEM · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:39

Pants said:
I'm not jumping on the man made global warming bandwagon just yet...

I think scientist are quick to blame global warming to help boost their funds. And there is no solid proof yet that humans have anything to do with this.

God you're going to look VERY stupid if they are right.

The summer the weather has been very strange, my gut feeling is that this is a global warming thing.

AthlonTom · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:44

DAVEM said:
God you're going to look VERY stupid if they are right.

The summer the weather has been very strange, my gut feeling is that this is a global warming thing.

Well we can't go on gut feelings either!!!

PiKe · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:45

Flash weather warnings out on meto again: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_warnings.html

DAVEM · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:47

AthlonTom said:
Well we can't go on gut feelings either!!!

My point there was to defend the scientists (and fellow statisticians!) that they don't just stress something to get more funding, we publish in peer reviewed journals.

The data says global warming is supported. And like I said I think more events like this will convince the public?

Dave

Zip · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:49

DAVEM said:
My point there was to defend the scientists (and fellow statisticians!) that they don't just stress something to get more funding, we publish in peer reviewed journals.

The data says global warming is supported. And like I said I think more events like this will convince the public?

Dave

In the 70s(i think it was 70s) we had big floods ever year for about 4 year straight.

Then it stopped and we got 1 every now an then.

We have had a few floods over the past few years now.

But if you look at that then it cant realkly be too much global warming because that wasnt around in the 70s.

I think El Nino was though

roadie · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:52

Will London flood, seeing that Oxford has and Reading is supposed to? I damn well hope not seeing as I'm in a ground floor flat near the Oval, in Kennington, which is about 1/2 a mile away from the Thames and most certainly not elevated in any way.

PiKe · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:54

roadie said:
Will London flood, seeing that Oxford has and Reading is supposed to? I damn well hope not seeing as I'm in a ground floor flat near the Oval, in Kennington, which is about 1/2 a mile away from the Thames and most certainly not elevated in any way.

London has flood defences doesnt it?