Focus ST or Civic Type-R

Netphreak · 24 Jan 2006 at 04:01

Personnally I'd spend the extra and get a Golf GTI at least your not going to run the risk of high depreciation.
Or if you fancy something abit different try a Mazda RX-8 can be got for <£20K, rear wheel drive lots of power revs to 9K and personnally sounds even nicer than a Civic Type-R.

James_N · 24 Jan 2006 at 07:23

Vertigo1 said:
Bear in mind that the Civic will probably lose a fair bit of value as the new model becomes more prevalent.

this is true, hence the reasoning behind me thinking of selling it before it loses more of its value

I kinda bought the car at the wrong time looking back now

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 09:25

Nickg said:
buy a 10k civic and it will only lose a few k, certainly not as much as a 17k and save the rest in a high interest to help recover the depreciation

this is what i'm going to do. I was thinking last night.....you only live once!

Going to look at a CTR for around the £13k mark (so will still have warranty when i come to sell again later in the year). Then i'll be able to swap the CTR for my goal, the ST2.

Hopefully the whole thing will only see me lose a couple of grand.

good plan?

As for dealer service.....i think everyone is different? I've had my A3 into 3 different dealers for servicing over the last 3 years and they've all been different levels of service. one was utter carp yet one was amazing......welcomed me into the place with a coffee and knew who i was before i'd said a word.

little things and all that!

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 09:37

Netphreak said:
Personnally I'd spend the extra and get a Golf GTI at least your not going to run the risk of high depreciation.
Or if you fancy something abit different try a Mazda RX-8 can be got for <£20K, rear wheel drive lots of power revs to 9K and personnally sounds even nicer than a Civic Type-R.

the point is, i havent got the £17k i need for the Focus i really want. how am i going to get £20k for a RX-8?

The golf would be the same?

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 09:37

James_N said:
this is true, hence the reasoning behind me thinking of selling it before it loses more of its value I kinda bought the car at the wrong time looking back now

are they really going to drop that much?

D4VE · 24 Jan 2006 at 09:43

I doubt it, remember they are damn popular

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 09:52

Morba said:
who has told you that it will lose £5k in one year?
are you planning on selling after 1 year? if so then buying new is a crazy idea regardless of the car.

ford dealership told me i would lose 5-6k in the first year. too much of a risk seeing as it's a new car.

SiHH · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:25

Reality Bites said:
ford dealership told me i would lose 5-6k in the first year. too much of a risk seeing as it's a new car.

Yeah but how long do you intend keeping the car for ?

Vanilla · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:27

Another vote for the CTR!

toy_soldier · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:28

merlin said:
Hmm, tricky one - but out of the CTR and the Focus ST I'd definately go for the DC5.

Yep, definately.

I was going to mention that but I didnt want to get set on fire

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:35

siloleth said:
Yeah but how long do you intend keeping the car for ?

the focus i'd probably keep for a couple of years.....not sure.

[TW]Fox · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:44

Reality Bites said:
ford dealership told me i would lose 5-6k in the first year. too much of a risk seeing as it's a new car.

You are going to lose a pile with any brand new car though?

Firestar_3x · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:47

Pre Reg is the way to go, its just a waiting game basically end of feb should be a good month to buy a pre reg if you can find one.

Mr_Sukebe · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:50

Interesting that the RX8 was mentioned in the thread.
Whilst I wasn't that impressed by the RX8 when compared to say a 350Z, they are available from £14k, putting it as an interesting alternative to the CTR. They've similar interior space to the CTR/Focus, do sound great and have wonderful balance. If you can live with the none too great fuel consumption, I'd definitely suggest you go check one out.

Morba · 24 Jan 2006 at 10:56

Reality Bites said:
ford dealership told me i would lose 5-6k in the first year. too much of a risk seeing as it's a new car.

i really cannot see them selling for £11k come december next year.
You lose money on any new car, thats why people buy pre reg, saves paying all that vat!

Stonedofmoo · 24 Jan 2006 at 12:14

I thought RX8's were losing money left, right and center?

Possibly not the best choice if your are looking for a car which holds it's value

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 15:42

Morba said:
i really cannot see them selling for £11k come december next year.
You lose money on any new car, thats why people buy pre reg, saves paying all that vat!

dealer i know said that they have it down on their books to be worth that after a year.

I would pay £13 - £14k for one. Once the initial lump is off.

how does the pre reg work?

Reality Bites · 24 Jan 2006 at 15:43

[TW]Fox said:
You are going to lose a pile with any brand new car though?

i know that....meant it in the terms that it's only just been released so no one knows how much of a drop it will be.

With the CTR a new one would lose £2-£3k (going new for £15550) where no one knows what the focus ST will do

Firestar_3x · 24 Jan 2006 at 15:55

Reality Bites said:
how does the pre reg work?

Dealer buys a car when sales are low and it gets registered to the dealership so they are the first owner often they are not used and then put up for sale the next month, the dealer takes the first hit come sales time since its not a new car and then only disadvantage to you is your the second owner on the books not the first.

eidolon · 24 Jan 2006 at 16:05

Reality Bites said:
With the CTR a new one would lose £2-£3k (going new for £15550)

I thought they were more than that? :confused:

When I bought mine they were £17,995 (with air con and metallic paint).

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