Folding@Home Weekly Team News - 27th July 2006

[shadowscotland]

best OC's are on the intel chipset boards -

**B Grade** Abit AW8 Intel 955X (Socket 775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-083-AB) Price: £49.00 or AW8-MAX for £69

I've an Asus P5WD2 Premium but their not cheap and would blow your budget
(but great OC board btw) don't know much about above board - the max version has some v.good reviews. no sli - not that you need it for folding

GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX21GB5300DC) (MY-030-GL) Price: £51.95

your also need an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 775) (HS-017-AR) Price: £14.95 or Scythe Ninja Plus Heatpipe CPU Cooler (if your case is big enough (mine wasn't)

and of course the Intel Pentium 4 805 Dual Core "LGA775 Smithfield" 2.66GHz (533FSB) - Retail (CP-116-IN) Price: £59.95

£239.82 inc VAT and shipping (in MAX MoBo)

 

[Joe42]

your also need an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 775) (HS-017-AR) Price: £14.95 or Scythe Ninja Plus Heatpipe CPU Cooler (if your case is big enough (mine wasn't)

Ahh well you see it looks like i may not get the 939 retention bracket for my ninja back which i sent attached to my motherboard which was replaced. That would leave me with a used ninja with only an lga775 retention bracket.
I think this is the first known occurance of someone building a folding node around a spare heasink.

Edit: New sig btw. A little messy but not bad for my first sig image ever.

 

[lay-z-boy]

Anyone fancy speccing me an 805 bundle with a board that will overclock nicely and 1gb of basic ram for folding. Budget £200. Need lots of sata ports.

I could have got a dual Athlon mp 2800 bundle for that but i think the 805 bundle is better value, so thats what i'm after now.

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go for the 915, trust me the 805's are insane, they can make a w/c 120.3 setup look underpowered.

 

[shadowscotland]

Yep the 915 look like a nice chip - extra cash (just what a folder needs) and 65nm so less heat/electrical load. 14x multiplier not as good as 805 (20x) but FSB is 800 to start. Reports of 4.5Ghz but look like 3.9 is more the norm to the 805's 3.6 air norm oc

The Abit will do 1066FSB so thats ok - your budget your choice

Edit: or spend another £50 on differen Mobo and E6300, the choices are endless - stick to a budget and get best bang for buck.

 

[rich99million]

Yep the 915 look like a nice chip - extra cash (just what a folder needs) and 65nm so less heat/electrical load. 14x multiplier not as good as 805 (20x) but FSB is 800 to start. Reports of 4.5Ghz but look like 3.9 is more the norm to the 805's 3.6 air norm oc

The Abit will do 1066FSB so thats ok - your budget your choice

If you're paying the electricity bill then a more efficient machine will soon pay for the extra cost with cheaper running, also should mean for a more reliable machine as most components don't react well to constant intense heat

 

[Joe42]

extra cash (just what a folder needs)

Did you mean cache? Although its also true for cash.

I'm on a £200 budget here for ram cpu and board. It needs lots of sata ports and overclockability, and it needs to be the best folding machine for that price.
If i went for the 915 that would leave £100 for a board and ram, can i get a decent board for that?

Anyway i have to see if my scythe ninja retention bracket turns up first, and then i need to decide what i actually want. Just looking at posibilities atm.

Electricity bill is a concern, i needs to be cheap to run...

 

[shadowscotland]

In a word no - £49 for the b-grade is rock bottom - always private second hand (but no RMA) plus 50 for the ram plus vat and delivery 915 is over budget - 805 is only just in budget it's self at £198.76 (cpu/Mobo/ram/VAT/Delivery)

 

[Joe42]

Well i need to have a think about what i need and what i can afford.
First job is to order the stuff i need for my opty such as a new psu.
Then i'm building a media centre pc, budget £500.
One thats done my temporary fileserver can be replaced with something a little better, as its only once we get the media centre going that the fileserver will become necessary.

If i was looking at getting a 915 i might aswell get an X2 3800+ for about the same price, and presumably the 3800 would be better?

 

[Stan_Lite]

Projects for when I return from Egypt:

1) Get all rigs stable, allowing for the odd hot day we get in sunny Peterhead.

2) Replace X2 3800+ in the little case with a cut price X2 4400+ (the cheapo board only does 250 HTT which restricts the 3800 to 2500MHz, 4400 has an 11x multiplier meaning it can go to max 2750MHz). With a bit of luck I will get this close to the max and the 2Gb Mushkin Redline can go at least 1:1. If I get it high enough, I will put the X1900XT from this week only into it and create my new gaming machine. If not I will see which machine is fastest, put either the Mushkin or the TCCD RAM and the X1900 into it and play on.

3) Put X2 3800+ in DFI Ultra D board along with other bits bought from the MM to make new rig.

4) Rig up socket A bundle bought from MM consisting of:
Abit KD7 RAID
Athlon XP1700 DLT3C
GlobalWin Copper Cooler
2 x 256MB PC2700 DDR Ram Samsung 2.5 CL
64mb ATI Radeon GFX Card (7200?) Passive cooled - along with other bits from MM.
These apparently clock like hell and the bundle only cost £50 so I thought I'd have a play

The only things I will be ordering from the shop will be:

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST
OS-001-MS Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition inc. SP2 - OEM - 1Pk (N09-01528) (OS-001-MS) 2
£51.95 £103.90
GX-047-CO Connect3D ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (3056) (GX-047-CO) 1
£199.95 £199.95
HS-003-SY Scythe Ninja Plus Heatpipe CPU Cooler (Socket 478, 754, 939, 940, LGA755) (HS-003-SY) 1
£26.95 £26.95
CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM) 1
£144.95 £144.95
Subtotal £475.75
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £8.25
VAT £84.70
Total £568.70
The rest is being bought from the MM.

5) Then there is, of course, the XPS M1710 to add as well - giving me another 5 clients running

Stan

 

[BillytheImpaler]

That, sir, is dedication.

 

[rich99million]

woah that's quite some list there - funnily enough I saw the XP1700 rig for sale and was almost tempted myself

sounds like you'll be a busy man on your return!!!

 

[Stan_Lite]

woah that's quite some list there - funnily enough I saw the XP1700 rig for sale and was almost tempted myself

sounds like you'll be a busy man on your return!!!

I saw you buying non Folding type items in there whilst I was browsing - shame on you

I will indeed be busy. I have less than a week between returning until the OMGWTFBBQ - I would imagine it will take me most of that to sort this little lot out.

Keeps me out of the pub, at least

Stan

 

[Joe42]

That, sir, is dedication.

Absolutely.
Well done that man!

 

[BillytheImpaler]

Speaking of the OMGWTFBBQ, where is Matblack.? I see he's still suspended and has been since 27th June. I didn't think they handed out suspensions that long.

I hope he comes back to TOSAH when he comes back.

 

[lay-z-boy]

CP-135-IN Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 "LGA775 Alendalle" 1.86GHz (1066FSB) - OEM (CP-135-IN)
£114.95 £114.95
MB-003-AK Asrock ConroeXFire-eSATA2 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (MB-003-AK)
£51.95 £51.95
MY-036-CR Crucial 512MB (2x256MB) DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Ballistix Dual Channel Kit (MY-036-CR)
£30.00 £30.00
Subtotal £196.90
VAT £34.46
Total £231.36

just over and can oc well

MB-003-AK Asrock ConroeXFire-eSATA2 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (MB-003-AK)
£51.95 £51.95
MY-036-CR Crucial 512MB (2x256MB) DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Ballistix Dual Channel Kit (MY-036-CR)
£30.00 £30.00
CP-133-IN Intel Pentium 4 915 Dual Core "LGA775 Presler" 2.8GHz (800FSB) - Retail (CP-133-IN)
£84.95 £84.95
Subtotal £166.90
VAT £29.21
Total £196.11

under, will be slower than the other rig but should oc very well

remember, intels have the fah compiler to back them up for sse2 and if they use others, them as well

 

[BillytheImpaler]

I wouldn't touch that Asrock ConroeXFire-eSATA2 with a barge pole. It has no capabilities to control any voltages in the BIOS and has problems with high FSBs.

 

[Joe42]

Is 512mb of memory enough for folding?

 

[BillytheImpaler]

Of course it is. 64 MiB is enough if you're content to get wee WUs.

 

[Joe42]

Well the bigger the wus the better the ppd. So how much memory do the biggest wus take?
Is it under 256?

 

[BillytheImpaler]

QMDs used to take 300 MiB but they're on hiatus. The biggest normal Wus use around 100 so 256 could do just fine.