**Football 19th-22nd March** 2010/2011

Torres is also suffering from a lack of service, last 3 games have been particularly bad. There were 3 clear chances (one was offside but still counts) to slide the ball to an open Torres but lampard, kalou and malouda are so low on confidence that they become selfish. Torres will come good but he is going to need service and Lampard obviously isnt happy to pass. Best to get him into his perferred coaching role and get a new younger player instead.
I like that is dropping deep, holding up balls and looking like a teamplayer and not shevchenko loner style.

The thing that made Torres so devastating in the early Liverpool years was that acceleration, the initial 5 yards of pace which he'd use to glide past players. In the last 18 months, he seems to have lost that. Now, I'm not sure if that'll come back, and he certainly does have a lot of other attributes. However, I'm really not sure if he'll ever be the player he was.
 
He seems (probably quite rightly) about pulling a hamstring again.

Which begs to differ he didn't have those problems in his early Liverpool career, or in Spain. So is this due to e.g. a poor warm up or something?
 
The thing that made Torres so devastating in the early Liverpool years was that acceleration, the initial 5 yards of pace which he'd use to glide past players. In the last 18 months, he seems to have lost that. .

Agreed, he's been battered.

Which begs to differ he didn't have those problems in his early Liverpool career, or in Spain. So is this due to e.g. a poor warm up or something?

Same as owen, the body can't take the continual beating and injuries keep coming. Some people are just unlucky that they can't take the abuse of others.
 
I was thinking about this at the weekend, I presume Hernandes will potentially suffer the same issues as Owen and Torres, as they all rely /relied upon that initial burst of speed over a relatively short distance and a lot of stop / starting

I dont know whether its true or not but I read recently that a huge majority of athletics /sprinter injuries are in the initial second or so of coming out of the blocks, thats when the muscles /tendons etc are most prone

These kinds of strikers are doing the same kinds of movements many many times over a 90 minute period
 
I was thinking about this at the weekend, I presume Hernandes will potentially suffer the same issues as Owen and Torres, as they all rely /relied upon that initial burst of speed over a relatively short distance and a lot of stop / starting

I dont know whether its true or not but I read recently that a huge majority of athletics /sprinter injuries are in the initial second or so of coming out of the blocks, thats when the muscles /tendons etc are most prone

These kinds of strikers are doing the same kinds of movements many many times over a 90 minute period

The majority of Hernandez' goals have been tap ins rather that his pace getting him away from defenders (only the goal against Blackpool I can remember where he sprinted onto a ball over the top and left the defender for dust) I wouldnt be too worried about Hernandez suffering similar injuries to Owen and Torres tbh
 
I was thinking about this at the weekend, I presume Hernandes will potentially suffer the same issues as Owen and Torres, as they all rely /relied upon that initial burst of speed over a relatively short distance and a lot of stop / starting

I dont know whether its true or not but I read recently that a huge majority of athletics /sprinter injuries are in the initial second or so of coming out of the blocks, thats when the muscles /tendons etc are most prone

These kinds of strikers are doing the same kinds of movements many many times over a 90 minute period

Yeah, I think its quite a problem for strikers who rely greatly on speed for their style. Eventually the injuries come, they lose the speed and are never quite the same again. I guess its a plus point of the sorts of strikers who werent so pace reliant, they may not bag as many goals in a season, but have a longer number of seasons of effectiveness.
 
The majority of Hernandez' goals have been tap ins rather that his pace getting him away from defenders (only the goal against Blackpool I can remember where he sprinted onto a ball over the top and left the defender for dust) I wouldnt be too worried about Hernandez suffering similar injuries to Owen and Torres tbh

Yeah because he doesn't sprint in any games

lol

Nearly every player will have a niggle or injury when they get on the pitch.
 
Holden's said that Evans called him to apologise earlier today. Good to see and good to see Holden accept his apology too.

Wasn't it Ramsey who refused to respond to Shawcross when he tried to phone him after breaking his leg?
Wasn't around here at that stage but did anyone think it was a freak break rather than Shawcross being reckless?

Good of Evans to apologise.
 
Holden's said that Evans called him to apologise earlier today. Good to see and good to see Holden accept his apology too.

Totally agree

I dont recall the incident which resulted in Nani claiming to have tried to appologise to Carra and the appology was refused/not accepted, but if anything that should have meant Nani accepting the latest appology (to be the bigger man - if nothing else) - rather than be a baby and refuse it

The majority of Hernandez' goals have been tap ins rather that his pace getting him away from defenders (only the goal against Blackpool I can remember where he sprinted onto a ball over the top and left the defender for dust) I wouldnt be too worried about Hernandez suffering similar injuries to Owen and Torres tbh

He does it nearly every game surely (while not scoring at every attempt - just meaning the actual sudden burst) to get off the shoulder of the last defender - and so far more frequently being caught offside , rightly or wrongly. There are seemingly few strikers who are that electric in the EPL currently
 
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I dont recall the incident which resulted in Nani claiming to have tried to appologise to Carra and the appology was refused/not accepted, but if anything that should have meant Nani accepting the latest appology (to be the bigger man - if nothing else) - rather than be a baby and refuse it

I've read this 3 times and I'm still struggling to work out what you're talking about :confused:

Nani tried to apologise to Carragher and because Carragher refused his apology, Nani therefore should have accepted Carragher's apology to be the bigger man? :confused: :confused:

What did Nani apologise to Carragher for?
 
sorry written badly

There was meant to be a previous tackle by Nani on Carra a while ago which Nani at the time tried to appologise for and Carra refused to accept, therefor THIS time Nani (imo) should have accepted the appology (so then to be the bigger man) rather than actiing the way he did :)
 
Ok :/

As far as I know, there's been no tackle by Nani on Carragher and therfore no apology from Nani to Carragher. Nani did cry about Carra injuring him last season (even though it was a fair tackle and Nani actually wasn't injured until the next game) but there was no apology from Carra then (as there was no need).

It's up to Nani if he wanted to accept Carra's apology from the other week. Only Carragher knows if there was any intent. As I said at the time though (and I believe Carra said as much this weekend), I can't recall Carra ever committing a dangerous tackle in his career before the Nani incident so I would be inclined to think there was no intent.
 
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