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That can't be real...
Apparently Moreno has been to visit shaw in hospital which is nice. Really dangerous tackle that you shouldn't be putting in on a fellow professional but he genuinely seems remorseful about it.
I just worry that was shaws injury record this is the sort of thing that could plague him for years.
I just worry that was shaws injury record this is the sort of thing that could plague him for years.
Some extracts from Fergie's latest book:
Interesting that he was apparently interested in Balotteli, but decided he was too much of a risk. Guess it's easy to be a bit smug when it turns out you'd made a good decision, but wonder how many other players he ruled out in a similar fashion, who went on to produce for other clubs.
Also like his slant on the whole Rooney wages thing. Can't imagine that his conversation with the Glazers was quite as laid back as he makes out.
Interesting that he was apparently interested in Balotteli, but decided he was too much of a risk. Guess it's easy to be a bit smug when it turns out you'd made a good decision, but wonder how many other players he ruled out in a similar fashion, who went on to produce for other clubs.
Also like his slant on the whole Rooney wages thing. Can't imagine that his conversation with the Glazers was quite as laid back as he makes out.
I'm sure he missed out on plenty but I doubt that many of them were because of an attitude problem. Ballotelli is a special kind of nuts. The funniest thing is that clubs keep signing him thinking that they will be the one to fix him.
Its always super tempting when someone has failed to imagine that you will do better and keep him happy and focussed but he is just unmanageable. Its a bit like Falcao really. United thought they could rejuvenate him but couldn't and the idea that he could be the one to do it was too much of a lure for Mourinhos ego.
Its always super tempting when someone has failed to imagine that you will do better and keep him happy and focussed but he is just unmanageable. Its a bit like Falcao really. United thought they could rejuvenate him but couldn't and the idea that he could be the one to do it was too much of a lure for Mourinhos ego.
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Seen this on facebook and had to post it here 
I'm pretty sure I remember him wanting his wages matched to the top earner prior to rooney as well and who can blame him. No one was ever more consistent at united than him. The giggs thing is laughable though, it's pretty clear you are getting him whether you or the manager wants him or not as long as fergie is alive.
I also think he's wrong saying he only ever had 4 world class players in his whole time there. I know him and keane don't get on but his signing was an influential as Canotna. He's right though that he should have won more ECL, domestically he was the best of all time but he was found wanting so often in europe.
I'm not sure he was found wanting in Europe to be honest. One of his strengths was that he could get the best out of most players. Over the course of a season we would be consistently good enough to win the league. Perhaps not the best team but the most consistent. Thats how you win leagues.
To win the CL you have to be one of the best teams but also consistent. We were quite often nowhere near as good as the top teams in europe man for man and you can't afford to be second best time after time against top top teams.
That's probably more damning than saying he simply underachieved. As Newbie touches on, Utd were the richest or at the very least one of the richest clubs in Europe for the majority of Fergie's time at Utd. There isn't really any excuse for Utd's side to be inferior.
Lol, how is that sense 
Either Dean or the Lino saw it so I thought they couldn't do anything about it (or is that just increase punishment?) and even the most mental Arsenal fans said it was a sending off.
Costa's going to get sine die
Either Dean or the Lino saw it so I thought they couldn't do anything about it (or is that just increase punishment?) and even the most mental Arsenal fans said it was a sending off.
Costa's going to get sine die
Costa should have seen red for the push in the face, the flailing arm, the two pushes to Gabriel and then could have seen red for this off the ball collision.
That does not change the fact that Gabriel was sent off correctly and the Spanish hamster was correctly sent off.
That does not change the fact that Gabriel was sent off correctly and the Spanish hamster was correctly sent off.
I'm not sure that we were necessarily the richest or at least the richest clubs were not "that" rich. We also had quality throughout our squad a lot of the time, perhaps just not quite the very best quality in the world though.
Once the glazers took over as well we were never close to being the club with the most cash to spend. You also couldn't necessarily just buy any player you wanted as they may have preferred another club.
We should have been buying more top players over the years but we won the PL most years so I don't think there was ever a huge desire to spend big at the club.
Either way, yes I agree that we should have won more outside of england over the years.
Once the glazers took over as well we were never close to being the club with the most cash to spend. You also couldn't necessarily just buy any player you wanted as they may have preferred another club.
We should have been buying more top players over the years but we won the PL most years so I don't think there was ever a huge desire to spend big at the club.
Either way, yes I agree that we should have won more outside of england over the years.
Barca and RM are both still richer than us (although it may not be too long before that changes) - I'm pretty sure they were always richer - and getting a vast amount more % of their TV money which helped
edit - I'm talking about club value and Forbes recently stated Utd were 3rd http://www.forbes.com/soccer-valuations/list/
Barca "only" won it 4 times in the same time frame, and RM & Bayern managed it twice each (and none of those clubs had to manage a debt of upto $1BN + interest)
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