Football Banter Thread

Apparently there was an error with the voting, only one person turned up. A rather odd looking fellow called Will Rowney. He had a right dodgy moustache and funny looking glasses.
 
What a self entitled **** he is, Aubameyang deserved to win that award imho. Scoring at a crazy rate in the Bundesliga whereas Toure, a great player himself hasn't done sweet FA in the epl this yr. I used to like Toure a lot but after his sulk a few yrs back when city didn't give him a cake for his bday, I think he is a monumental idiot of the highest order.

His brother Kolo is probably holding his head in shame.
 
Is he genuinely as much of a complete **** as he appears. He has a massive chip on his shoulder and seems to think he is much better than he is.
 
If Toure was half as good as he thinks he is, he would be the best player in the world.

He's an incredibly overrated midfielder, who is far too inconsistent to be considered world class. He is also a ****.
 
Carragher reckons the reason Rooney is rubbish now (laughable given the fact that he's won the above award) is that he's effectively 35 given how young he was when he hit the EPL as a first-team player.

Rubbish, or elements of truth?
 
Gilly said:
Carragher reckons the reason Rooney is rubbish now (laughable given the fact that he's won the above award) is that he's effectively 35 given how young he was when he hit the EPL as a first-team player.

Rubbish, or elements of truth?
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I think it could well be the case, to an extent. And he's not exactly been in peak condition consistently throughout his career, like Ronaldo for example, which won't have helped either.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that is a large element of it. Apparently scouts do look at parents to see what parents of future stars are like in their 30s. If you don't look after yourself perfectly then the strains of top level football will take their toll earlier.

Whatever the reason, it doesn't change the fact that he is not up to it any more. He would be fine at a smaller club or somewhere that allows him more time on the ball and more space but at the top level he is too slow witted and casual.
 
Starting so young can't have helped but the biggest issue is they way he looks after himself. If he took better care of himself, particularly during the close season then you can't help but think he'd be a better player/athlete than he is now.

The comparison to Ronaldo is a telling one. They both broke through at similar ages and if anything it was Rooney, not Ronaldo that everybody thought was going to go on and become one of the worlds greats. Whereas Ronaldo has gone from strength to strength and if anything has looked physically stronger as he got into his late 20's and still looks like close to his peak, Rooney's gone backwards.
 
BaZ87 said:
Starting so young can't have helped but the biggest issue is they way he looks after himself. If he took better care of himself, particularly during the close season then you can't help but think he'd be a better player/athlete than he is now.

The comparison to Ronaldo is a telling one. They both broke through at similar ages and if anything it was Rooney, not Ronaldo that everybody thought was going to go on and become one of the worlds greats. Whereas Ronaldo has gone from strength to strength and if anything has looked physically stronger as he got into his late 20's and still looks like close to his peak, Rooney's gone backwards.
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You raise a great point Baz and football is a strange sport as I feel the strength, stamina & movement aspect of the game is so often overlooked by just talent, why is that?
 
Ronaldo actually put the effort in that's why.

You can tell with Rooney he doesn't take his diet and training too seriously, nowhere near the level Ronaldo does anyway.

A lot of English and premier league players really don't take it that seriously, there's still a big drinking culture at some clubs, there's a group of Sunderland and Newcastle players who love a night out.
 
Liquiduk said:
You raise a great point Baz and football is a strange sport as I feel the strength, stamina & movement aspect of the game is so often overlooked by just talent, why is that?
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When you lose physical condition and you have no talent, you have nothing, when you have talent and lose some of it, you can still be half decent. Talent is more important than ability to run a lot.

If Rooney had been playing for ages AND had picked up more injuries as a result and hadn't dropped off in quality way before he was 30 then year sure. Playing a couple years earlier than other players might mean he's crap at 33 rather than 35... but what 27-28 is when he got noticeably worse for wear. This is down to him personally, he's always been a hefty guy, he's never at any stage of his career carried the kind of body fat percentage Beckham or any other top pro does. He appears to not look after himself, judging by his size it doesn't appear like he eats exceptionally well and his worsening fitness, ability to work hard has gone down.

Once you reach a point where you're taking time out of the season to attend a fat camp because you started the season in such poor condition you were just embarrassing yourself it's almost certainly downhill from there. How he got new contracts after that point I don't know.

He hasn't got much actual talent, there is no stand out part of his game. The only thing he had as a kid was raw power, he lost that years ago. Complete waste of space and pretty much sums up why talent is considered more important, Rooney without any fitness or workrate is actively harming the team.

There is very little difference between Rooney and the majority of other players in terms of how hard they work. In terms of joints getting worse, training every day is just as damaging as playing a league game. He wouldn't be in any better condition if he'd not been played till he was 18.

It's embarrassing frankly, because he played 1-2 years earlier than a lot of other players he aged 7 years worse in football years, 5 years if you want to pretend he only got **** this season. Older footballers were FAR more effective when they retired than Rooney is now. Many are better than Rooney now closer to 40 than 35. People are looking to make excuses for how bad Rooney is, it's not that he's not very talented, or that he's not hugely professional for an athlete in terms of conditioning, it's that he's basically retirement age :rolleyes:
 
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