Football, just a working class cult?

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[TW]Fox;18645415 said:
Ah, a football thread in GD. The opportunity for me to ask a question I've always wanted to ask but would be considered trolling if I asked it in Sports Arena.

How come at a football match, the Home and Away fans are kept away from each other yet at a Rugby Match you can sit where you want they will happily serve you alcohol?
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Well thats because the primary reason for attending the football match was to have a fight, not the actual game.

Sadly plod cottoned on to this in the 70s and from then on in it was all down hill.

I of course no longer attend Millwall, but let me tell you i do still miss it :D
 
I love having a kick around.

But professional major players are joke! Don't get me started on all that rolling around on the floor when they get tripped or even when they aren't touched at all, TOUGHEN UP YOU WIMPS, STOP TRYING TO THROW THE GAMMMMEEEEE!!!111!!

That nasty streak of vanity which has come in vogue drives me nuts too. Dave Beckham wearing skirts, good influence on young men i'm sure.:)
 
Some people can take things a little to seriously, some people are brought up with Football on the brain and a particular team they must support and it just escalates from there. on a side note rugby league is a much better game than football, and this is a much more important factor i think :p:p
 
Is supporting a football team "cultism"....anything taken to an extreme can be considered to be unusual behaviour.
The op coming from Glasgee has the added stupid ****ing cathlic/pros thing going on, i worked there for a year and its shameful but very very real for some of the people there, i cant understand it but i my folks weren't semi retarded
 
hurfdurf said:
I'm hardly a meathead, I have a degree in Politics, can use capital letters and understand the basic psychology behind sport.

You have admitted yourself you are to much of a wimp to fight so you replace it with something nice and gentle in comparison to get over the urge, which is what most people who play sports are doing, its pathetic when you think about it. I watch football and to me it looks like professional wrestling, ridiculous.

4 corners of a play ground, ones playing soccer, ones playing basketball, one cards and in the 4th a fight breaks out, where does every body run? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg5tO2_aUJU&tracker=False
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dude ive been in plenty of fights, i used to box, im just saying, it aint worth ruining my looks over, ive got 1 scar on my right eyebrow. and you are a meathead plain and simple. ive watched plenty of mma fights, and i have a full boxing/weightlifting gym in my house. i also have an honours degree. so what?
 
shifty_uk said:
Yeah, totally and your chums from private school, who visit the opera every week curse, swear, cause trouble and shout abuse at folk who like the opposing equivalent of opera? A town nearby even vandalised the local Asda so much, they were forced to change the logo colours from green to blue. That would totally happen with your opera comparison, totally.
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are you really judging the worldwide sport of football on one notoriously stupid and deluded area of the worlds football supporters(glasgow) ?
 
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lol my dad use to play Rugby Union and he would go on tours and end up in fights, Rugby players are always in trouble for fighting/drinking.

Every sports has its idiot supporters/players, well maybe not Crown Green bowling.
 
Tummy said:
I enjoy posting in GD because the common sense and intelligent posts are just lost in an ocean of ****.
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yeah that guy is saying people only play football because they are wimps afraid of fighting.

he's obviously never watched keane, cantona, etc? or an old firm match.

how about they have more common sense than meatheads?
 
An old work colleague used to say, "Football is thugs trying to act like gentlemen; Rugby is gentlemen trying to act like thugs."

Not a fan of either sport, but it certainly rings true.
 
Well, not it's not that, but people in here (including myself although I was tipsy) have offered explanations to dismiss this stigma attached to football ect ect, and we seem to get no further then just typical GD responses.
 
Pestilence said:
An old work colleague used to say, "Football is thugs trying to act like gentlemen; Rugby is gentlemen trying to act like thugs."

Not a fan of either sport, but it certainly rings true.
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i would hardly call ronaldo/zidane/larsson a thug? maybe true about 15+ years ago but the game has changed a lot.

i doubt anybody in the barcelona team except mascherano is a thug.
 
[TW]Fox;18645415 said:
Ah, a football thread in GD. The opportunity for me to ask a question I've always wanted to ask but would be considered trolling if I asked it in Sports Arena.

How come at a football match, the Home and Away fans are kept away from each other yet at a Rugby Match you can sit where you want they will happily serve you alcohol?
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the same reason you will never see scenes like this at rugby

passion . and its caused fights and wars since history began.
 
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dmpoole said:
I find it amazing that this so called 'workingmans sport for thick buggers' can be seen in every corner of the Earth.
I like when Bruce Parry goes into the deepest jungles of Papua New Guinea or the Amazon that he will find kids kicking a ball with Arsenal & Man Utd shirts on.
This PROVES beyond doubt that football is part of evolution, in our genes and the one sport that unites the world every 4 years.
I truly believe that any male not into football must be a bit girly.
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Lol
 
"andy" said:
passion . and its caused fights and wars since history began.
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I see. So football fans are 'passionate' so they cannot sit together without assaulting each other and cannot be trusted with alcohol, and presumably rugby fans are not 'passionate' so they can be trusted to drink alcohol and not assault each other?

How odd.
 
[TW]Fox;18653159 said:
I see. So football fans are 'passionate' so they cannot sit together without assaulting each other and cannot be trusted with alcohol, and presumably rugby fans are not 'passionate' so they can be trusted to drink alcohol and not assault each other?

How odd.
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It doesn't really matter. It's a significant aspect of our evolution, apparently, so it's worth the odd hiccough.
 
Generalisations perhaps but it has one of the most extreme, narrow minded and often thuggish followings of any sport the world over and it's not just Britain. There's football hooliganism across Europe. HOWEVER, I am taking it to the extremes here, I haven't once mentioned 'hooligans'..... My gripe was with the deep routed, religious following amongst CERTAIN fans from largely working class backgrounds who can't see past their own teams.

I have girls on my Facebook(from my school days, as stated in the OP) who have never watched or played a game of football in their entire lives.

Yet, when the 'old firm' or random match is setting off, they'll curse and swear the daylights out of the opposing teams or even simply and extremely proudly show their following by cheering and chanting delightfully when their team is winning.

They don't like the sport but this one sided following has been passed from generation to generation and it's installed into their thick heads so deeply!

It might just be a Glasgow thing, which would make it hugely hard for you to imagine or get where I'm coming from. That's why I was wondering.
 
[TW]Fox;18653159 said:
I see. So football fans are 'passionate' so they cannot sit together without assaulting each other and cannot be trusted with alcohol, and presumably rugby fans are not 'passionate' so they can be trusted to drink alcohol and not assault each other?

How odd.
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Its really not hard to understand.

Both Rugby and Football fans have, and do, assault each other sometimes. Any of them that do are complete and utter mindless idiots.

Football is far more popular than Rugby, therefore, logically, there will be more 'Football thugs'.

shifty_uk said:
It might just be a Glasgow thing, which would make it hugely hard for you to imagine or get where I'm coming from. That's why I was wondering.
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I think that is quite possibly the case.
 
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