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Heaven Can Wait said:
No its not. not at all.
Squatting works the exact same muscles, only upper body as well.
Incline doesn't, works top of the chest mainly, I do high and wide after a flat session so incline isn't needed.
When i hit quads i squat and finish it off with some smaller exercises, but doing squats and leg press in the same session is stupid, same goes for swapping squatting for leg press.
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nobody mentioned doing them in the same session. there is no detriment to growth (mass or strength) by adding in some variety now and then.
an example - 180kg squat using whole body v 400kg leg press using quads, you cannot tell me that utilising leg press on occasion is a bad thing.
 
Heaven Can Wait said:
No its not. not at all.
Squatting works the exact same muscles, only upper body as well.
Incline doesn't, works top of the chest mainly, I do high and wide after a flat session so incline isn't needed.
When i hit quads i squat and finish it off with some smaller exercises, but doing squats and leg press in the same session is stupid, same goes for swapping squatting for leg press.
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Everyobdy has a different way of doing things, and people may benefit from doing leg press rather than squats. Maybe some people use leg press as a primary exercise while they are learning how to squat properly, and some people may have trouble with lower back and knees so choose to leg press as not to aggrivate injuries.
There is also nothing wrong in swithing it up a bit and doing leg press rather than squats for a while, shock the body a bit. if it works for you and you gain from it there is nothing wrong with it.
So just because someone doesnt share your views on things doesnt mean its "stupid" everyone has their own methods that work for them. Would you call 8 time mr olympia "stupid" because he does leg press, no you wouldnt because it clearly works for him.
 
Which is exactly why in a powerlifting competition you do leg press. :rolleyes:
And mr olympia is another ballgame, its not powerlifting, your not tested for drugs.
If you have back problems, fair enough, if not, squat.
 
Morba said:
nobody mentioned doing them in the same session. there is no detriment to growth (mass or strength) by adding in some variety now and then.
an example - 180kg squat using whole body v 400kg leg press using quads, you cannot tell me that utilising leg press on occasion is a bad thing.
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True with the variety part, but any powerlifter doesn't just want quads, the reason people squat and deadlift, and a little with bench, is that it works most parts of the body.
Never heard of anyone working just legs mind, the typical person does biceps 5 days a week :p
 
Heaven Can Wait said:
but any powerlifter doesn't just want quads,
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hold on, you said leg press is for people that cant squat, you didnt mention anything about powerlifting.
leg press v squat in terms of powerlifting is completely different to leg press v squats in weightlifting / bodybuilding.

nevermind tho, i can now see where you were coming from.
 
I've been very lucky with injuries so far. The worst I've suffered at the gym was a slight pull in my back which was caused by poor form during the deadlift. The only injury that's actually stopped me from going to the gym was caused by me sleeping at a funny angle and not being able to move my neck for days :(

Going to take it easy for another two weeks before I begin another 3 months of bulking. I've decided to cut out most of the crap I've eaten during my previous bulks and try and do it as clean as possible. I've ordered some oats to replace my Fruit Corner as my morning snack and will probably have more oats instead of the Pasta 'n' Sauce I usually eat as my pre workout food. I'm also replacing the Hovis Best of Both bread for wholemeal bread. I've still got a few more things to sort out but my diet should look a lot healthier and won't contain as much processed food.

I've also ordered some Creatine and will be trying that for the first time. I'm hoping the change to my diet and the addition of Creatine should allow me to push myself harder than ever before.
 
Only injury i ever had was four years ago when i was curling 60kg twenty times and i strained a muscle in my neck and that screwed me for about six weeks :(.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
The worst I've suffered at the gym was a slight pull in my back which was caused by poor form during the deadlift.
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ive done the exact same thing, couldnt twist at the hips without a sharp pain in my back, took about 7-10 days to fully clear, until i could go gym again

right now though i can feel a clicking above my right elbow, near my tricep, when doing any tricep exercises, pretty annoying and uncomfertable :mad:
 
A2Z said:
ive done the exact same thing, couldnt twist at the hips without a sharp pain in my back, took about 7-10 days to fully clear, until i could go gym again

right now though i can feel a clicking above my right elbow, near my tricep, when doing any tricep exercises, pretty annoying and uncomfertable :mad:
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I understand that preacher curls are common for elbow area injuries, you been using that ?
 
My routine is commonly

Mon

Squats
Leg Press
Leg Extension
Hamstring Curls
Seated Calf (high rep)
Standing calf (low rep)

Wed

Incline Dumbell
Bench press
Flys
Clean and Jerk
Shoulder press
Upright Rows
Side lats

Fri

Deadlift
Chins
Biceps (Curls)
Triceps (French press/Dips)

I have done this routine with a good diet for a few years now and have put on 4 stone. Currently 16 stone.
 
rayer said:
My routine is commonly

Mon

Squats
Leg Press
Leg Extension
Hamstring Curls
Seated Calf (high rep)
Standing calf (low rep)
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Ever considered adding in some SLDL? Excellent for the hams, only commenting as it looks as you have many quad movements but little ham movements. Congratulations on the gains however :)
 
S7yl3s said:
Ever considered adding in some SLDL? Excellent for the hams, only commenting as it looks as you have many quad movements but little ham movements. Congratulations on the gains however :)
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No, coz my lower back gets hammered on the Friday with Deadlifts, but the hams still get worked during the squat and leg press, and i just then fry them with the ham curls to finish off.

Saying that though, might chuck em in tonight :D
 
rayer said:
No, coz my lower back gets hammered on the Friday with Deadlifts, but the hams still get worked during the squat and leg press, and i just then fry them with the ham curls to finish off.

Saying that though, might chuck em in tonight :D
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You're right, they do get worked during these movements but I'm a big fan of SLDL bring the hams up to scratch. And they don't have to be so heavy as to need a lot of back strength they are more of a focused movement.

Personally I think you're way overbalanced towards the quads, and should definately consider this.
 
rayer said:
My routine is commonly

Biceps (Curls)
Triceps (French press/Dips)
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Really nice workout you got there, only thing i can comment on would be the bicep/triceps in the same session, most go for a pulling session and a pushing session, so the triceps would be with the bench, just to finish off with.
same with the uplift rows, would kill me if i did those as well as benching, seeing as its a back exercise
 
OK, I only have some:

Weight: 81.2 kg (on 24/01/2007 @ 7:30pm [approximately]) {13 stone}

Bench Press (1 Repetition Maximum): 70 kg (I haven't tried recently with a spotter so I don't know).

Deadlift (1 Repetition Maximum): 135 kg (I haven't tried since as that was pushing it really).

Squat: 60 kg (I can't quote 1 Repetition Maximum here as I don't do squats too much).

Goals:


Bench Press (1 Repetition Maximum): 80 kg - 90 kg

Deadlift (1 Repetition Maximum): 150 kg

Squat (1 Repetition Maximum): 100 kg

I also want to drop body fat, but I need to get a body fat calculator to work out by how much.

At least now I am 16 I can go to the gym when I like, whereas before I couldn't really.

Angus Higgins
 
I find that doing Bi/Tris on Friday i can focus on them more and they have until the following Weds until they are worked in any form again. (5 days later).
By working chins on Fri, i count that also as a bicep movement in a way, so not a lot is needed to burn them out.
I work chest first, so when i have finished, my shoulders are totally warmed up to reduce injury. The upright row complements the workout well by doing the trap/shoulder and chest tie-in.
 
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