Force India

Slam62 · 24 Aug 2018 at 08:57

JRS said:
Because you can't change the chassis name mid-season as the car was homologated under that name. If they'd changed that then they'd be ineligible for the constructors' championship points with that car. So the team owner bit of the name has gone from Sahara to Racing Point, but the chassis name bit has to stay as Force India until they build a new car for next season and can register a name change in time.

Ah, makes sense

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 09:17

@JRS but they have lost the constructors points anyway.
Andi.

JRS · 24 Aug 2018 at 09:30

andicole0 said:
@JRS but they have lost the constructors points anyway.
Andi.

Yeah, but they can now accrue Constructors' points for the remainder of the season with this car. Otherwise, they'd either not be a constructor (so no points available) or have to homologate a new car (not happening in time to go racing this season).

413x · 24 Aug 2018 at 09:42

Willims can enjoy not being last.. For a couple of days!

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 10:05

JRS said:
Yeah, but they can now accrue Constructors' points for the remainder of the season with this car. Otherwise, they'd either not be a constructor (so no points available) or have to homologate a new car (not happening in time to go racing this season).

Ah! I see. Cheers.
Andi.

Shoeyuk · 24 Aug 2018 at 10:13

According to BBC commentary this morning with Force India resetting back to 0 all the other teams effectively get $3 million

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 10:20

Shoeyuk said:
According to BBC commentary this morning with Force India resetting back to 0 all the other teams effectively get $3 million

Surely that will depend on how the rest of the season goes. If Williams etc continue to score few points the new team will rise up from the bottom earning a share.
Andi.

GravyMonster · 24 Aug 2018 at 10:26

The figure is assuming that FI finished 6th in the constructors standings. Based on last years figures that's ~$28m, so the BBCs numbers have some logic behind them, but there's a lot of variables which can have an effect on it.

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 10:27

Otmar saying they want to be called Force India for the rest of the season, no driver changes planned and they won't get a new engine allocation.
Andi.

GravyMonster · 24 Aug 2018 at 14:39

I wonder if Mercedes are going to now use FI as a test team for their engines, forcing them to take new experimental components and taking the associated penalties, similar to how Honda are planning for TR before RB use their engines next year.

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 14:46

Spunkey said:
I wonder if Mercedes are going to now use FI as a test team for their engines, forcing them to take new experimental components and taking the associated penalties, similar to how Honda are planning for TR before RB use their engines next year.

Not sure the rules allow that, don't engines have to be the same.
Andi.

GravyMonster · 24 Aug 2018 at 15:08

I think the latest homologated engine has to be available to all teams, but they can test what they want on who they want.

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 16:00

It now looks like they are keeping this years prize money but the loss of 59 points will affect next years prize money.
Andi.

Flibster · 24 Aug 2018 at 18:36

andicole0 said:
It now looks like they are keeping this years prize money but the loss of 59 points will affect next years prize money.
Andi.

But it will make the 2019 entry fees lower. IIRC $500'000 and $5000 per point.
Won't offset the loss of many millions of prize money, but it'll help a little.

andicole0 · 24 Aug 2018 at 20:16

I suspect with Mr Strolls 2.7Bn a few hundred thousand won't matter much
Andi.

JRS · 25 Aug 2018 at 11:36

andicole0 said:
I suspect with Mr Strolls 2.7Bn a few hundred thousand won't matter much
Andi.

Just remember the old adage.

"How d'you make a small fortune in F1? Start with a large one."

andicole0 · 25 Aug 2018 at 11:46

JRS said:
Just remember the old adage.

"How d'you make a small fortune in F1? Start with a large one."

Lol.
Andi.