Ford Ecoboost 1.0 Cambelt Changes starting to be due @ £1000+

A chain is a bit louder running. But the efficiency is as near as makes no difference and modern cars don't tend to lose performance over time. It costs more to make but lowers maintenance and pretty much removes the risk of it breaking, or some mechanic screwing up the timing when changing a belt.

VAG's tried it on some engines but it made their engines even more problematic. Why they couldn't figure it out who knows. Most Japanese cars use chains even the eco stuff.

But yea wet belts seem to be less reliable, not just on Fords. You pay the price for the manufacturer's lower emissions tax.
 
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Amazing how many one-post members are posting in here, must be ranking quite high on Google.

Is this really as bad as it looks? I know all cars have their issues, but going by the posts in here, this seems to be disproportionately higher than the competition?
That was my thought, because there are a high number of Focus owners, then any issues are going to seem worse by the number off owners reporting it. Id love to buy a 2018 onwards Focus, but cant afford one right now, and any I could would probably have 80k+ on the clock. Hence looking around the 2015-2017 models. My alternatives are similar to another poster, Mazda3's, Hyundai i30 ,Skoda Octavia, maybe a Volvo 40 ? But I need to research any costs for belts on them.

If I was to still look at a Focus around the 2015-17 age, apart from asking if the belt has been changed (unlikely), what relevant questions should I be asking to try and avoid this belt issue ? Thanks for the advice guys its appreciated
 
If I was to still look at a Focus around the 2015-17 age, apart from asking if the belt has been changed (unlikely), what relevant questions should I be asking to try and avoid this belt issue ? Thanks for the advice guys its appreciated
If you can't get the later chain driven 1.0, then skip the 1.0 Entirely and get either the 1.6 or 1.5 Ecoboost, which have a conventional timing belt rather than the wet belt, and therefore don't suffer from any belt degradation issues.

Assuming all relevant recalls have been done on these (there was at least one for some models of 1.6, and one for some models of 1.5), then they shouldn't be any more of a risk than any other car available
 
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well with all the eco belt problems when we replaced out 2.0tdci mondeo we opted for the 1.5 diesel cmax bit more than we wanted but hey we got the spec and colour and the bonus of 2017.
opted for the 1.5 because the belt looks more straightforward to change as i did the mondeo so no doubt will be doing this one.
still a shame as there are loads of eco boosts that folk will just pass on :(
 
Spoke to a local garage today and he confirmed that to replace the wet belt on an Ecoboost 1.0 is about £1,300, as he said it can take nearly 2 days.
Can you please just confirm that an an example the models I should be looking for is a '1.5t Ecoboost ' as that has a dry belt ?
 
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Any recent experiences to feed into this thread? I have a family member that is upgrading soon and their ecoboost focus will come up for sale in the new year probably for very cheap. It's mint etc, but aware that this work might need doing soon.
 
My Focus is currently with a London main dealer for an issue at the moment. 10 year belt replacement is due in a couple of months and I asked how much for the belt to be done and was told £2k! Asked a different (outside London) main dealer and £1,800. Might need to start looking around for independent options :/
 
Any recent experiences to feed into this thread? I have a family member that is upgrading soon and their ecoboost focus will come up for sale in the new year probably for very cheap. It's mint etc, but aware that this work might need doing soon.

Just had the wifes car done, 54k miles, 10 years old, we've had the car from new.
Local garage, 12hrs labour ~£1250 all in.

Asked the garage to let me know how bad it was, they said they'd take photos.
When I picked up, they said no photo's taken as it was super clean, no debries and old belts still in good condition.
One of the cleanest they had seen... they have one person who 'specialises' in this job.

It's been serviced every year, 4 x ford (as I had the 5yr warranty) then the rest at the same garage.
Garage has always billed the correct Castrol Magnatec 5W-20 oil rather than lucky dip bulk oil.

I suspect the combination of low milage between services (5-6k) and good oil has helped to preserve it, the oil is always pretty clean when dipped.
If it's had a tough life or uncertain service history then you may want to reconsider.
Poor oil quality also kills the turbo and the vacuum pump which some have had fail along with the wet belt.


Only issue I had was the coolant pipe split, it was the new type but the small hard plastic pipe split in the braid near the bonnet catch.
Caught it when it had only lost ~1lt coolant, so new pipe and all is good.
Pipe is ~ £45 on ebay for ford OEM so and takes less than 10 mins to swap. The far ends just push in and the middle pushes onto the turbo outlet, but you need to trigger the hose clip on the turbo pipe so it grips as it comes 'unactivated'..... just need some pliers.
I'd swap that on any used model.

Only other thing I want to do is swap the coolant header tank... apparently ~ £20 for OEM and they can split.
The issue with the engine is the temp sensor is badly located so if it dumps coolant, by the time the light comes on the engine in toast.
 
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Ford seems to have made an engine they don't like servicing.

The good ecoboost engines seem to be the ones used in the ST models.
 
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I read that from around 2017/2018 ish onwards, Ford quietly updated the 1ltr ecoboost engines to have a chain for the timing belt. Apparently they still have a wet belt for the oil pick up though. Not sure if this is true. Saw it on reddit.
 
I read that from around 2017/2018 ish onwards, Ford quietly updated the 1ltr ecoboost engines to have a chain for the timing belt. Apparently they still have a wet belt for the oil pick up though. Not sure if this is true. Saw it on reddit.
Yes and no. All Mk3 Focus 1.0 are wet belts, all Mk4 Focus 1.0 are timing chain.
In the Fiesta it is more complicated. The changeover was 2020 ish, but I haven't seen a definitive build date, it seems to vary a bit depending on model/output. It's easiest to just look under the bonnet as Ford also reversed the head when they switched to chain.
Turbo at the front by the radiator means wet belt, turbo at the back by the cabin means timing chain.
Also all MHEV 1.0s are timing chain. But yes the oil pump is still belt driven.
 
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My 2017 B-Max 1.0 Ecoboost has a belt. I always have it serviced at the Ford garage in Elgin (Parks) and the cost is very reasonable and includes the next years MOT. I will probably be keeping this car for a long while as I just love it. The engine (125bhp version) is great and all the torque is available at 1400rpm so it's got plenty of pull for a 3 pot 998cc turbo and regularly returns over 50mpg. My best is 52.7mpg while my worst is 47.9mpg when I first got it as I drove it like the close ratio Astra I had before and had to adapt myself to the new small engine. It's been extremely reliable so far and hasn't needed any money spending on it aside from servicing and a pair of tyres to replace the originals on the rear. The seats are firm but very comfortable and with a much higher seating position than my old Astra doesn't leave me in agony (I have a chronic back problem) after a drive. I wanted a higher seating position but didn't want a tank and the B-Max is the right car for me even if it does have a engine that so many people seem to hate.
 
Just had the wifes car done, 54k miles, 10 years old, we've had the car from new.
Local garage, 12hrs labour ~£1250 all in.

Family member wants to pass their 2014 Focus 1.0 ecoboost onto my son for cheap, and it will have done about 70k miles. It's been very well maintained but, awkwardly, I wonder if the family member actually knows about this high cost. I think they would feel really bad passing it on knowing it would need £1250 doing straight away. I am going to have to mention it I think. A shame that the price hasn't come down more by now. I suppose the first ones needing it are only just starting to prop up still. Perhaps we will start to see the market flooded with them with just shy of 100k on them, or 9 years old.

EDIT: It's 150k miles I forgot, so realistically it's always going to be 10 years that comes first for most.
 
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Same thing with VW's DSGs. "Sealed for life", but it will be a short life if you never change it.
hmm is that the ZF transmission that is on beamers merc and some jags? people saying oil never needs to be changed but ZF themselves say it has to be changed and give an interval time too.

with the ecoboost wet belts, anyone had one snap or are people just annoyed that they were led on it to be a lifetime thing and was then given a limited life span.
 
with the ecoboost wet belts, anyone had one snap or are people just annoyed that they were led on it to be a lifetime thing and was then given a limited life span.
I don't think anyone has had one snap, more just that they degrade and block the oil strainer (and other areas of the engine).
Again however it depends on way too many variables, such as length/type of journeys, time between oil changes and whether correct brand/spec of oil is used.
 
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