Ford PATS programming
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![[TW]Fox](/data/man-of-honor/2009.png){kind=avatar}
My new car has two keys, but I fancied a flip key - which is more practical for me.
You still haven't told me what exactly is wrong with what I've done? It is no different to cashing in the tax once it's on the forecourt, or keeping my floor mats?
You still haven't told me what exactly is wrong with what I've done? It is no different to cashing in the tax once it's on the forecourt, or keeping my floor mats?
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Surely the two keys belong with the car.Keeping one key to save a few £ is just being a tight ass.Did you keep the mats?
If it was a private sale would you do the same?
If it was a private sale would you do the same?
What's wrong with keeping a key anyway, I have bought a car before from a dealer with only one key, so someone must have kept it.
A bit ***** if you're going to reuse it as they aren't worth a lot, but if the buyer was happy, then what's the problem? The buyer could have seen one key and walked off.
Same with keeping the mats^ or the original keyring from the dealer, it's not like he's planning on stealing it.
A bit ***** if you're going to reuse it as they aren't worth a lot, but if the buyer was happy, then what's the problem? The buyer could have seen one key and walked off.
Same with keeping the mats^ or the original keyring from the dealer, it's not like he's planning on stealing it.
The difference between "do you mind if it only has one key" and "do you mind if I keep a key" is MUCH greater than some people seem to appreciate
[TW]Fox;17665035 said:
Ive bought cars with one key before, its no big deal - these things get lost, broken etc etc. But if I knew the previous owner still had one, I'd run a mile.
Covering it up because you think your intentions are sound is no excuse. You may think "**** the dealer", but you realise someone is going to buy that car from the dealer, right?
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Times must be tight when you sell a car,and have to keep a key fob.....
Who cares? That is the dealers problem, no one is forcing anyone to buy the car from them?
And how does it affect them anyway? Other than the fact there is only one key, which they'll obviously be happy with if they buy the car?
[TW]Fox;17665035 said:
Why is that my problem? The car has been sold, I've been paid my money.
So now its changed from "You still have a key for a car that isn't yours" to "the buyer might be nervous". LOL, if you're going to bitch at least be consistent like you used to and just drop from conversation when you're proven wrong.
What does that achieve?
This dealer did you a favour. You got a really good deal because your family and this dealer have history and loyalty.
Instead, you screwed them rather than returning the favour by at least giving them the car in the condition you'd want to receive one in yourself.
You'd have been right back to them if the new car came with a buckled wheel or something, wouldnt you?
And dont give me the whole 'It was going right to another dealer' thing - the transaction was between you and the dealer you apparently have 'loyalty' to. The fact they then sold it on is immaterial - you've no idea how much got knocked off the agreed price once the other dealer realised it had 4 crap tyres, a buckled wheel and was missing a key.
It just smacks of a completely **** thing to do.
And thats aside from the inherent dodgyness of retaining, deliberately, the key to something you are selling. Irrespective of what you then intend to do with it.
But you cant see this - you never will. Its just how you are. You think all of this stuff is acceptable in the same way you think saying 'Sorry mate, your problem not mine' is acceptable if you damage the car of a paying customer.
It's just how you seem to be.
And it's a real shame.
I'm still consistent - I'm still standing by 'You still have/had/whatever a key for a car that isn't yours'.
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About 50 quid instead of 80
for mike,
if you dont want to use your bestest buddy local ford dealer try finding an independant with a BlueStreak Iflash or a x431 from launch, might be worth googling to see if snap on ever added this option to the solus as they kept promising as it would give you a much greater choice of places to try or do what most people would do ask your sister to get one done for you and stick it in the post. simple.
btw if your sister does work for ford whats her name and where? i worked with ford crc for a while after i left my dealership
if you dont want to use your bestest buddy local ford dealer try finding an independant with a BlueStreak Iflash or a x431 from launch, might be worth googling to see if snap on ever added this option to the solus as they kept promising as it would give you a much greater choice of places to try or do what most people would do ask your sister to get one done for you and stick it in the post. simple.
btw if your sister does work for ford whats her name and where? i worked with ford crc for a while after i left my dealership
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The other dealer settled with me, the dealer I dealt with was just acting as an agent to sell me my new car.
So now its gone from "You still have a key for a car that isn't yours" to "the buyer might be nervous" to "it was morally wrong".
Seriously Fox, make your mind up what I've done wrong, or will you keep making up reasons as long as I keep addressing your "concerns". Why do you care about this dealer anyway?
So now its gone from "You still have a key for a car that isn't yours" to "the buyer might be nervous" to "it was morally wrong".
Seriously Fox, make your mind up what I've done wrong, or will you keep making up reasons as long as I keep addressing your "concerns". Why do you care about this dealer anyway?
He dont care but it is a bit off, what you ****ing about over 80 quid for anyway.
You bring these drama threads on yourself.