Ford - Turbo Dieseles - Failing when not driven fast enough

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I don't think i'll ever willingly buy a car with a DPF. It's a crazy, unecessary, expensive, ticking timebomb.

I have to agree, to a point, with the original poster. Why sell a car that has a DPF and needs to be driven at 50mph for 15 minutes somewhere where this is impossible? You cannot assume that the car will be driven on the mainland, it is sold on Jersey and should be fit for the purpose to use in Jersey. I think we are going to see more and more of this in years to come, especially if an origional purchaser has the same issues and gets the same response.

Whether you do your research as a purchaser or not (And i bet the majority of new car purchasers don't) the OP is correct that for use on Jersey it is not fit for purpose. There may be other ways around it, but lets face it thats Ford's problem not the buyer's especially if it was under warranty. I'd also be challenging the assumption that the repair warranty expires with the car's. If the goods are repaired it must work for a reasonable period, it's a few pages back but i'd be pretty certain no court in the land would say 1000 miles or less is reasonable.

At the end of the day I think if the OP was the origional purchaser he'd probably encounter a differant attitude from Ford. For all we know the origional purchaser may have been advised against a diesel and chosen to ignore it. Maybe he did use it more on the mainland than jersey? who knows.
 
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But failing in 1000 miles means it isn't being driven correctly which is causing the problem, it's not a "failure", it's "damage".
 
Im confused... why is wheel speed relevant ?, Surely its a case of meeting certain revs? If anything.
Its not a gearbox or drivetrain issue?
 
Eliot said:
Im confused... why is wheel speed relevant ?, Surely its a case of meeting certain revs? If anything.
Its not a gearbox or drivetrain issue?
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It's more engine load, not revs. So 50mph in a high enough gear will put enough load on the engine to get bits hot.
 
Sin Chase, you're banging on about vehicle suitability for the island, are you going to moan to Honda when your VTEC fails due to lack of usage? I mean, you never creep above 40mph, right? :p
 
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I'm sure that is what he's on about - though frankly I've no idea why because the sale of new vehicles by main dealers and what they do or do not say to purchasers doesn't affect him or his friend :confused:
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Again, I am pretty sure it is down to his thoughts on consumer protection and am surprised you cannot understand why he is raising it. It honestly comes across as people being deliberately obtuse just to mock the OP.
 
DPF's are not a problem, my diesel with DPF has done 60k without having a single problem.

The problem is buying diesels for short journey's. It totally defeats the object of owning a diesel and will continue to give you problems.

Only other thing I could recommend is to make sure the car has reach and been run for a while at full operating temperature.

Personally selling it and getting a petrol will probably save you a lot of bother.
 
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I thought it was a private sale anyway?
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Was indeed, however he raises a second point of contention, which is Ford shouldn't sell them new within the dealer network on the island.

Which is clearly total twaddle, it’s not upto the dealer to police what people buy and how they intend to use it.
 
Amongst all this ranting, has it actually been confirmed that low speed driving has killed the turbo on this car?
 
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Which is clearly total twaddle, it’s not upto the dealer to police what people buy and how they intend to use it.
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Hmmm. I'm not sure about that.

IMHO, a "professional" sales person should be asking a few questions about the intended use. Professionalism, integrity, honesty etc

If a customer comes to me to buy something, I will normally ask want they want the equipment to do and, often make some suggestions that I, as the experienced professional (have to blow my own trumpet occassionally!), think would work better.

Perhaps I over-estimate what I expect from a dealer? That said, a quick Google turns up bits like this

Our sales staff and service technicians are fully trained to Ford main dealer standards to provide you with the best Allen Ford experience every time you visit one of our sites.
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Hmmm. I'm not sure about that.

IMHO, a "professional" sales person should be asking a few questions about the intended use. Professionalism, integrity, honesty etc

If a customer comes to me to buy something, I will normally ask want they want the equipment to do and, often make some suggestions that I, as the experienced professional (have to blow my own trumpet occassionally!), think would work better.

Perhaps I over-estimate what I expect from a dealer? That said, a quick Google turns up bits like this
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Let me rephrase, the dealer is under no legal obligation to check your intended usage pattern.

Yes it would be professional and correct of them to ask, but they don't have to, so no doubt don't bother.
 
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