Forza 4

Im wondering, who uses a wheel and who uses a controller? does anyone use both and notice a difference either way?
 
I use a wheel mate, I can't really go back to the controller. I find it easier to drift with a controller though.

Are you normally quicker on the wheel? reason i ask is i always have used a controller, and have finally gone and won a wheel of ebay in a hope to keep up with the 4/5 people who are always above me on leader boards.

Is the wheel going to help or do i just need more skill?
 
Are you normally quicker on the wheel? reason i ask is i always have used a controller, and have finally gone and won a wheel of ebay in a hope to keep up with the 4/5 people who are always above me on leader boards.

Is the wheel going to help or do i just need more skill?

I'd say it'll help mate, wheels are so much better a lot of people say it improved their lap times. I prefer the wheel it's more immersive.

What wheel did you get the official one?
 
Are you normally quicker on the wheel? reason i ask is i always have used a controller, and have finally gone and won a wheel of ebay in a hope to keep up with the 4/5 people who are always above me on leader boards.

Is the wheel going to help or do i just need more skill?

The majority of really quick drivers use a pad, I would say I'm quicker with the pad but the immersion that you get with a wheel outweighs the fact I'm a tad slower. :)
 
i guess im not really bothered much either way, the wheel will help massively in making it more interesting getting to the 100%
 
I found when i swapped from controller to wheel initially i was a couple of seconds slower, but, once you get used to it you are able to get smoother lines and much more throttle and brake control, I'm now much faster with a wheel and only switched back to pad for the drifting events whilst the Fanatec wheel had an odd oversteer bug, now its been fixed I'm 100% wheel user. I still don't use the clutch though, cannot get used to manual clutch and instead left foot brake... which has become so natural I was doing it on my Palmersport track day last year.
 
Its a long discussed flaw in the PI calculation to put it short. The stock 4 speed transmission in a lot of the muscle cars (and some classics) artificially limit to the top speed of the car keeping their PI low as on the imaginary track used to calculate it the long straights would hamper the car. The problem is these cars accelerate up to their relatively low top speed (129mph in B) well before any other cars will and due to the PI being lower than it should be you can also add a decent amount of handling to the car. What makes it obvious that this is the problem is that when you add a race gearbox to the car the PI will jump up to take it well into another class. So you have the acceleration and handling of a car around A590 in B class but with the low top speed. With the top speed being the limiting factor it becomes fairly pointless on all but the longest tracks. Even road america has the camaros at the top.

The '79 camaro is a lesser version of the cars that no longer post to the leaderboards due to this issue:

  • 1968 Dodge Dart HEMI Super Stock
    1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
    1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
    1967 Dodge Coronet W023
    1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
    1971 AMC Javelin-AMX
    1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EV0
    1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

There are a couple of other cars in the short circuits leaderboard because there are a few less straights for them to jump so far ahead.

Could all that also be why my Ferrari 250 California in D class is streets ahead of anything the AI can come up with?
 
you know i havent even Looked at leaderboard recently, just been gettin annoyed with ONLINE! one race works next your back at menu then your kicked and then your racing and BLAHHHHHHH haha, think i may have to look at rivels again but could be a while before im back online as i am moving out into my OWN little appartment and wil have access to my PC 24/7 as well but im sure i will be on the box from time to time (if only my G27 worked with xbox)

also iv added 2 cars i think to garage, both lotus and Both handle really well if anyone wants to try them (both Green and Yellow(Lotus colours))
 
I'm a wheel user (official ms wheel on a stand). Generally faster with the pad I find due to the speed of corrections you can make so damn quick with a twitch of the thumb.

There was something I noticed watching a few different replays where there was constant oversteer/understeer corrections going on through smooth bends but it produced faster speeds through said bends than holding a smooth line with smooth throttle control. You can emulate this with a wheel but it'll wear out after a couple of hours if you do. Constant sawing action on the wheel just to shave tenths off isn't what it's about unless you have an endless supply of wheels to wear out.
Taken a week off to concentrate on gym attendance as this game put a couple of pounds on me ;)
Should be having some fresh cracks at rival times this week.
 
Well Feb car pack looks BEST so far! cant wait to have the net back so i can gets me that Sport Quattro S1
 
787B!!!
Bet like with the previous car packs it will be the one good car that can't be bought separately. Not bought any of the DLC so far all the packs have been rubbish bar one or 2 cars.
 
yeah think i got 1 not sure tho! TBH this one does look like the best pack to date but there all goin to be R1-R2 bar the polo and alfa!

happy tho that the quattro is in there, just got a standard quattro class A (bit slow) but on right track it works a dream!
 
I think its about time I came back to Forza, didn't get that much time on Forza 4 due to playing 3 all summer for 100% and was pretty much burnt out by the time 4 came out!

That weariness has faded..... :D
 
TBH i need to do the same but i just cant be bothered because of froza 4 and that im not really bothered about my gamerscore haha.

was just gettin back into forza till i moved so no net so cant really race online so not really with goin on xbox when i have my PC with a G27 which is WAY more fun :D
 
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