FreeSync coming next month! (?)

Gregster · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:29

Martini1991 said:
According Humbugs logic, who are we to tell him he's wrong?

In fairness to Humbug, we had the debate on here and Humbug did defend the guy.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:33

Gregster said:
In fairness to Humbug, we had the debate on here and Humbug did defend the guy.

So, Humbug's blind as a bat then

. But at least he's consistent.

Someone needs to find that thread!

shankly1985 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:35

Martini1991 said:
I've never said anything on its usefulness.

Smoothness is perception. Consoles gamers as a rule are console gamers because they don't really care, they don't know any better. How is their perception more accurate than someone who's experienced higher frame rates and higher refresh rates? It's not.

Consoles aren't smooth. Well, more like last generation aren't smooth. PS4 for what I've played is fine thus far.
Go play GTA 5 on an Xbox 360 and tell me it's smooth.

But I game on a pc at frame rate way above 120hz and even I had zero issue with gta5 on ps3.

Orangey · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:36

Was it this thread I related the story about the 8800gt owners and their delusions? Anyway, funny.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:37

shankly1985 said:
But I game on a pc at frame rate way above 120hz and even I had zero issue with gta5 on ps3.

You must have some poor perception then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWVY8ducBG4

That's one of the first actual normal video's that comes up. Far from smooth.

Or this ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqUVT9QgV5Q#t=2820 Can you not notice the lack of smoothness? When you're driving in a car, and look at the window, it doesn't look anything like this.

shankly1985 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:38

Martini1991 said:
You must have some poor perception then?

Nope, I can easily tell when I playing at 60hz or 120hz on pc.

humbug · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:39

Martini1991 said:
I've never said anything on its usefulness.

Smoothness is perception. Consoles gamers as a rule are console gamers because they don't really care, they don't know any better. How is their perception more accurate than someone who's experienced higher frame rates and higher refresh rates? It's not.

Consoles aren't smooth.
Go play GTA 5 on an Xbox 360 and tell me it's smooth.

Conjecture reasoned with more conjecture, of course they care and its at a level they are happy with.

What was i saying about before about someone like that calling you out as a pretentious snob?

Console Gamer: its perfectly smooth, i'm happy with it.

Martini: you don't know what you are talking about, you don't know any better.

You are making a ridiculous argument, you are dismissing all other opinions as based on ignorance, the only one with ignorance in that is you.

Whatever you insist, my point is right, people have systems that run at below 30 FPS, Free-Sync being available to them is a good way to go.

Gregster · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:42

Why does it always have to come down to personal attacks? Just stop now.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:42

humbug said:
Whatever you insist, my point is right, people have systems that run at below 30 FPS, Free-Sync being available to them is a good way to go.

I've never denied that people have systems and game at lower than 30 FPS.
And console gamers don't care about frame rate (Or at least didn't back in the last gen when 30FPS was the standard)

shankly1985 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:44

Martini1991 said:
You must have some poor perception then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWVY8ducBG4

That's one of the first actual normal video's that comes up. Far from smooth.

Or this ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqUVT9QgV5Q#t=2820 Can you not notice the lack of smoothness? When you're driving in a car, and look at the window, it doesn't look anything like this.

You really using a YouTube video to show me a games smoothness?
For a start you don't even know what his recording or video editing was like.

Ayahuasca · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:46

shankly1985 said:
You really using a YouTube video to show me a games smoothness?

Coming from the guy who used a youtube video to try and show mantle was smoother :rolleyes:

I thought you were going to work.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:46

shankly1985 said:
You really using a YouTube video to show me a games smoothness?
For a start you don't even know what his recording or video editing was like.

You didn't answer the question.

humbug · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:46

Gregster said:
Why does it always have to come down to personal attacks? Just stop now.

It hasn't.

Martini1991 said:
I've never denied that people have systems and game at lower than 30 FPS.
And console gamers don't care about frame rate (Or at least didn't back in the last gen when 30FPS was the standard)

They don't care because as far as they are concerned its smooth. besides that i'm using it as an example as its diverted the whole thing into a smoothness argument.
As i said before, there are people using low end GPU's and APU's who can't maintain more than 30 FPS, they will benefit from Free-Sync in the same way anyone will.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:47

humbug said:
It hasn't.

They don't care because as far as they are concerned its smooth. besides that i'm using it as an example. as i said before, there are pepole using low end GPU's and APU's who can't maintain more than 30 FPS, they will benefit from Free-Sync in the same way anyone will.

How can you call anyone out, but then make full blown blanket statements?
And earlier you were telling me they do care.

Ayahuasca · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:48

humbug said:
They don't care because as far as they are concerned its smooth. besides that i'm using it as an example. as i said before, there are pepole using low end GPU's and APU's who can't maintain more than 30 FPS, they will benefit from Free-Sync in the same way anyone will.

Then you have the argument why would they care about freesync if it's already smooth to them, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference if they think 30fps is already smooth, then you have to consider if those people would buy a new TV or monitor just to use it as I doubt they'll care.

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:48

Ayahuasca said:
Coming from the guy who used a youtube video to try and show mantle was smoother

I thought you were going to work.

I thought he'd appreciate the effort.

And I'm at work, it's not like I have an reel of resources

shankly1985 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:49

Ayahuasca said:
Coming from the guy who used a youtube video to try and show mantle was smoother

I thought you were going to work.

You missing the point if the performance graph that I had on screen

In taxi

Martini1991 · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:49

Ayahuasca said:
Then you have the argument why would they care about freesync if it's already smooth to them, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference if they think 30fps is already smooth, then you have to consider if those people would buy a new TV or monitor just to use it as I doubt they'll care.

And they need a new GPU more or likely if they're gaming at 30 FPS or under.
Unless it's Kaveri.

Ayahuasca · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:50

shankly1985 said:
You missing the point if the performance graph that I had on screen

If there was a performance graph on the screen for that GTA video it wouldn't look pretty. I honestly think there's something wrong with your eyes or you just like playing ignorant, can't notice tearing and you think 30fps is smooth and fine.

humbug · 17 Oct 2014 at 16:50

Ayahuasca said:
Then you have the argument why would they care about freesync if it's already smooth to them, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference if they think 30fps is already smooth, then you have to consider if those people would buy a new TV or monitor just to use it as I doubt they'll care.

I think they will care about tearing and ghosting as much as you do.