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From 4770k to 2700x, does it even make sense?

I watched some dodgy youtube videos comparing 2700x and 8700k using 1080Ti. Even at 1440 sometimes the usage of the 1080ti wasn't pinned to 99% (while it always closer to 99% for Intel).

That's the last nail in the coffin for me, I'll wait for Zen 7nm.
 
I've upgraded from a 4770K @ 4.4GHz to a 2700X. I couldn't be happier. Even in Windows, it feels faster. As soon as windows loads up I can open multiple applications without any slow down, the 4770K would choke a bit. Gaming seems very smooth as well.

I would suggest upgrading while the hardware is still worth a decent price, as the longer you hold off the less it's worth. 4C8T CPU are cheap to buy these days so second-hand kit is only worth so much.
 
razorpakk said:
I watched some dodgy youtube videos comparing 2700x and 8700k using 1080Ti. Even at 1440 sometimes the usage of the 1080ti wasn't pinned to 99% (while it always closer to 99% for Intel).

That's the last nail in the coffin for me, I'll wait for Zen 7nm.
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For dodgy things all you have to do is look at Intel's latest marketing:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1722-misleading-core-i9-9900k-benchmarks/
Now is that like company deserving money for another re-spin of Skylake?

And that's Intel only returning to their old methods:
http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/intel-and-the-x86-architecture-a-legal-perspective
We would certainly have better CPUs along with most games capable to using lot more cores, if there had been full genuine competition for last 20 years.


Perfect_Chaos said:
Good for people who are already on the platform, not so much for someone just moving to AM4 though.
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There will be always limit somewhere, unless some areas are made to stagnate.
For example DDR5 should have its specs finalized soon and likely starts becoming more common in 2020.
And already having clear architectural upgrade step fitting to same motherboards is lot better than Intel's policy.
 
MG42Maniac said:
I've upgraded from a 4770K @ 4.4GHz to a 2700X. I couldn't be happier. Even in Windows, it feels faster. As soon as windows loads up I can open multiple applications without any slow down, the 4770K would choke a bit. Gaming seems very smooth as well.

I would suggest upgrading while the hardware is still worth a decent price, as the longer you hold off the less it's worth. 4C8T CPU are cheap to buy these days so second-hand kit is only worth so much.
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hows overall frametimes compared to 4770K?
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Good for people who are already on the platform, not so much for someone just moving to AM4 though.
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But still better than Intel and changing your Motherboard every new CPU generation lol... if you got on AM4 early then yes you would potentially see 4 generations of CPU, but even now your likely to see 3 generations, 2700x, 3700x, 4700x (3700x refresh)....

Unlike Intel, make you change every gen... i cant actually understand why people would be upset to move to AM4 and quote socket life, yes were on the verge of 7nm but thats a good 6 months off, thats plenty of time to enjoy the purchase and still get some decent cash back on it when next gen comes.
 
SiDeards73 said:
But still better than Intel and changing your Motherboard every new CPU generation lol... if you got on AM4 early then yes you would potentially see 4 generations of CPU, but even now your likely to see 3 generations, 2700x, 3700x, 4700x (3700x refresh)....

Unlike Intel, make you change every gen... i cant actually understand why people would be upset to move to AM4 and quote socket life, yes were on the verge of 7nm but thats a good 6 months off, thats plenty of time to enjoy the purchase and still get some decent cash back on it when next gen comes.
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Yeah, strange comment. It’s good for everyone, not just existing users.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Good for people who are already on the platform, not so much for someone just moving to AM4 though.
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You have to draw a line somewhere. OK, somebody jumping on Ryzen 4000 with 600 series motherboard in 2020 is the end of the line for AM4, but they're in no worse position than Intel users who have to change motherboard almost every time.
 
EsaT said:
For dodgy things all you have to do is look at Intel's latest marketing:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1722-misleading-core-i9-9900k-benchmarks/
Now is that like company deserving money for another re-spin of Skylake?

And that's Intel only returning to their old methods:
http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/intel-and-the-x86-architecture-a-legal-perspective
We would certainly have better CPUs along with most games capable to using lot more cores, if there had been full genuine competition for last 20 years.


There will be always limit somewhere, unless some areas are made to stagnate.
For example DDR5 should have its specs finalized soon and likely starts becoming more common in 2020.
And already having clear architectural upgrade step fitting to same motherboards is lot better than Intel's policy.
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Yeah I'm aware, but it's about performance, Intel could be murdering whales or whatever it's deemed "bad", I'd still buy their products if they were noticeably better.

But I get your point, I'll try to wait until we know more about the next Zen generation.

If I had to buy Ryzen now I would go for the 2600, for 150£ it would be a good stop-gap until 7nm.
 
Just to say yes it does. I went from 4770k to 1700. today i ran kingdom come on both, avg fps in busy areas on 4770k - 50-70 on 1700 70-100 (realistically 95) ITS A HUGE IMPROVMENT on a 144hz 2k screen. although not limited on the 4k monitor
 
Got the 4770k to 4.6, will see if I can behave come next paycheck :/ (delid ftw)

It does have better IPC than the 2700x at 4.4 as far as Cinebench single core goes.
 
razorpakk said:
Got the 4770k to 4.6, will see if I can behave come next paycheck :/ (delid ftw)

It does have better IPC than the 2700x at 4.4 as far as Cinebench single core goes.
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I’ll have my 2700x up and running today. Should have been yesterday but went to wrong address. FML.

I’ll let you know tonight what I think
 
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