Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

Just not seeing any worthwhile difference with my truck

Just have to suck it up then. Clearly your truck is useless at being efficient, but it probably wasn't designed with that in mind, so maybe no effort was put in to make it that way in the first place. It is a truck after all, and its hardly going to be light or aerodynamic, and probably has quite a large in-efficient engine in it.
 
Just have to suck it up then. Clearly your truck is useless at being efficient, but it probably wasn't designed with that in mind, so maybe no effort was put in to make it that way in the first place. It is a truck after all, and its hardly going to be light or aerodynamic, and probably has quite a large in-efficient engine in it.

Well there is that - but I don't really see much difference with anything else I drive either.
 
Yeah same here. The thing if I put my foot down I can drain the tank reasonably quickly as the mpg indicator confirms this, but you can’t really do that, that often because of traffic etc. If I maintain my speed at a decent level inevitably you come across a dawdler and have to slow down again.
 
Just not seeing any worthwhile difference with my truck - tried doing the same journey several times firstly making an effort to be fuel efficient with keeping momentum up where possible, avoiding accelerating heavily, etc. then tried driving as normal but at the kind of speeds talked about as being more fuel efficient, then just drove as normal:

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Slight gain from trying to be ultra fuel efficient but way too much effort for the returns and like 1 pixel difference between driving a bit slower and driving at normal speeds.

(Top line 30MPG, second line 15)

Suppose it depends on the miles you do each year. That looks like some where between 3.5-7% fuel saving. If you are doing 25,000 miles per annum that would be an annual saving of £600 at current fuel prices. That will become more like £900 by 2025 and fuel hits £3 per litre.

Not an insignificant saving (depending on your income)
 
Suppose it depends on the miles you do each year. That looks like some where between 3.5-7% fuel saving. If you are doing 25,000 miles per annum that would be an annual saving of £600 at current fuel prices. That will become more like £900 by 2025 and fuel hits £3 per litre.

Not an insignificant saving (depending on your income)

That was from really making an effort though - not a sustainable practise in the longer run. Just driving at supposedly fuel efficient speeds alone was within margin of error to my normal economy.

Obviously going to be a bit different depending on vehicle and kind of roads/traffic people encounter.
 
I'm seeing a few organised protests showing up on FB now, planned for the 4th July.

Because ******* off people who are just trying to get somewhere is a great way to promote your cause.

(This bitterness is in no way influenced by the fact that I’m supposed to be driving 300+ miles across the country on that date)
 
I do get a pretty massive difference in my Volvo, so I guess it very much depends on vehicle.

It is a 1.6 turbo petrol, mapped (official Volvo map) to 180hp, I used to drive fast get about 350-380 miles per tank, now getting 520-550 miles per tank driving miss daisy.

Admittedly that is more or less going from one extreme to another.
 
Cant see how driving economically would not be improved mileage for everyone. Can make quite a difference for me. If I was actually economical all the time I could probably get another 30% mileage.
 
It's going to depend on drivetrain and weight of car, I can drive fairly economically in my Abarth with its little 1.4 turbo but it is < 1.1ton, 2 wheel drive with an engine designed to be fairly efficient at light loads through multiair system, so driven normally, its 33-36mpg, driven carefully it's 42-50mpg.

My 2 ton diesel 4x4 on the other hand can't get around its weight, drivetrain losses and overall size (mobile house) driven normally around town it is 21-24mpg, stopping and shifting that weight in traffic kills it, trying to be efficient you can get a few extra mpg, but it is so little improvement it hardly seems worth the effort.
 
Thing that ****** me off is the £99 limit still being in place for pay at pump.

In a world where fuel is 189.9ppl, why is there a bloody limit at ~52 odd litres of fuel. Went to fill mine from empty last night, big queues at the few open pumps, I put 52L into my 95L tank, look forward to another visit when I can be bothered :( Only alternative would've been to finish the transaction then start up a second whilst people waited behind me
 
Thing that ****** me off is the £99 limit still being in place for pay at pump.

In a world where fuel is 189.9ppl, why is there a bloody limit at ~52 odd litres of fuel. Went to fill mine from empty last night, big queues at the few open pumps, I put 52L into my 95L tank, look forward to another visit when I can be bothered :( Only alternative would've been to finish the transaction then start up a second whilst people waited behind me

Can't you just go in and pay at the till? I'm sure you have a reason but isn't that the obvious solution?
 
I've seemed to notice a drop in my max mpg, not a huge amount, but previously I got to a max of 45.9 during the summer months but this year I can't get above 45.3 and that's even after a good few long motorway runs. I've assumed it's down to using E10 fuel exclusively now.
 
Cant see how driving economically would not be improved mileage for everyone. Can make quite a difference for me. If I was actually economical all the time I could probably get another 30% mileage.

Depends what the comparison is - for me just driving at "more economical speeds" vs my normal driving sensibly to the speed limits barely makes a difference to MPG but someone whose normal is some degree of ragging it might see a bigger difference. Then there is the going to the lengths of driving more economically overall including avoiding hard acceleration and forward thinking to avoid braking/acceleration where possible at all, etc. which can produce much bigger gains but is also a lot more effort.

But reproducing in the real world simplistic speed changes which might make a fuel economy difference on paper under ideal circumstances is much more complicated/difficult even ignoring things like drivetrain specifics.
 
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