Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

Yep I'm a fool. I didn't want to be part of the problem and waited until I'd normally fill up and... there's NOTHING around the E14 area where I work, zero. The 24hr places seem to have left their phones off the hook too and I don't want to end up in Bow or somewhere running on fumes lol.

I've got enough to get home and then go out and fill up somewhere local but I signed up for overtime Mon/Tues night and now I'll have to get public transport unless there's something available on my route home this morning, which adds an hour onto my commute each way. FFS.

I don't think filling up on Friday or over the weekend to get to work this week would have been being part of the problem - that seems completely normal. Apparently cars in the UK travel 142 miles a week which means filling up probably every 2-3 weeks. The ones who are filling up when they didn't need to for another week or two are the problem.
 
I see Farage has the solution - Brexit. He says one of the many benefits of Brexit is now we have sovereignty back we can abolish tachographs and allow U.K. drivers to work as many hours as they want instead of being stupidly restricted right now. You just couldn’t make it up.
The guy is a moron, and he’s yet again proving it.

The political geniuses in Whitehall have already implemented part of his wonderful idea, drivers can increase their hours currently to help ease the problem…

Relaxation of EU drivers’ hours rules
The retained EU drivers’ hours rules can be temporarily relaxed as follows.

Either

  • the normally permitted increase to the daily driving limit from 9 hours to 10 hours (allowed up to twice in 1 week) is replaced with a permitted increase to the daily driving limit from 9 hours to 11 hours (allowed up to twice in 1 week). All other daily driving limits remain at 9 hours
OR

  • the requirement to take at least 1 regular weekly rest period of at least 45 hours in a 2-week period is replaced with an alternative pattern of weekly rest periods, as specified, and an increase to the fortnightly driving limit from 90 hours to 99 hours. This enables 2 consecutive reduced weekly rest periods to be taken

What these muppets have missed is a huge reason for drivers leaving the industry is the long hours yet they think increasing our driving limit is a solution..

You couldn’t make it up.

I don’t know of a single driver who has any intention in following this absurd “solution” especially when last month - because it then didn’t suit - we’d have got prosecuted for going over our hours, for a bloody good reason, road safety….

I haven’t heard of operators implementing it either, my own employer included, I think they know they’d be laughed at were they to try.

The next genius idea is squaddies driving fuel tankers, another brilliant idea! Many servicemen acquire their HGV license whilst in the army, the vast vast majority don’t use it until they leave and go driving in civvy street.

The one thing you will not get a job driving petrol tankers without is experience and for a very good reason, yet it appears that is about to change!

What could possibly go wrong??? :rolleyes:
 
Must be some parts of the country, all 3 petrol stations in the town nearby have fuel, I drove past one this morning dropping my kid to nursery, not even a single car waiting, all grades available.
 
All three filling stations here (ST8) got deliveries yesterday, and ran out hours later.

No issues here, I’ve still got a good 1.5 weeks of fuel, possibly another week on top of that if I drain the TT for use in the BMW. If things really start to get tight then I’ll have to commute in the wife’s Passat, whereby I can use electricity only.
 
Its difficult because the people in those queues on the weekend were tagged as "morons" and yet following the official advice has left people up poop creek without a paddle.

The more I heard the statement "There is plenty of fuel at the depots" the more annoyed I got with Shapps. It is just such a pointless argument to make to try and convince Joe public not to go out and panic buy.

I had 4 days off work last week so I'm OK for fuel but that is more luck than judgement if I'm honest. I dropped in to Tesco on my way in to get something for lunch and they had the garage closed with "No Fuel" signs... and a delivery driver filling up one of their home delivery vans looking very embarassed. Can't blame them for wanting to keep enough back for the home delivery services though.

Other garage on my route to work was closed and the huge queue to the Sainsburys supermarket gave the impression they had some but for how long who knows!
 
It's been quite handy having an electric car - diversifying our fuel requirements. We've been using it solely over the weekend. However my wife's only got enough diesel to get to work and back today. If there's no fuel on the way then she's out - would have to start using my Leaf. So would have to leave work early to do the school pickups.

I'm hoping in the next few days, there will probably be a fuel surplus where everyone has filled up and loads of people don't need fuel for a few weeks.
 
Other half went out yesterday with 20 miles left to try to get some fuel, the same station I mentioned elsewhere that was closed the day before the breaking news got out is still down. As are the two other petrol stations close by on the trunk road.
Heading into town the other stations also all dry.

She got home with 4miles left, so basically cannot go out now as she has to be able to at least partly fill up when she does. Shes going to have to take my car and do a reccy now and probably get a can if she can.

Unfortunately the two american neighbours I got on well with have both returned home recently so i cant ask them to grab me some off base which would have been my go to before.
 
Went from Edinburgh to Perth yesterday; no fuel in any of the city stations I passed; managed to grab some Unleaded at Kinross Services on the M90 (albeit at Motorway prices) but even they had little left (no Diesel).
Not looking great at the moment
 
Apparently the station behind work has fuel according to those who went in (which appears to be a fair few...) I've arranged to car share for the only journey I'll need to do for the foreseeable so will at least not need to add to the problem.

I quite enjoyed using my bike on Sunday as a commuter tool rather then for fitness. Still had one idiot floor it past me when the lights were red 20m ahead, she clearly isn't interested in conserving fuel at the moment.
 
Its difficult because the people in those queues on the weekend were tagged as "morons" and yet following the official advice has left people up poop creek without a paddle.

The more I heard the statement "There is plenty of fuel at the depots" the more annoyed I got with Shapps. It is just such a pointless argument to make to try and convince Joe public not to go out and panic buy.

Yea exactly, I'll just drive up to my nearest depo, do they take cash or card lol.

And your right, don't panic buy, but once people have started, it's too late not to if you need the petrol.

I had a third of a tank left when I filled up yesterday, I've got to take the kids on the school run all week then I plan on going to London and back on the weekend (about 140 mile round trip) I could have left it to the end of this week, but what then if there wasn't any?

What do you say? Your trip.to London isn't essential work, sure. But I bet neither is a hole ton of other people who are filling up either.

Anyway as I said must be lucky doesn't seem to be a shortage here, but then when there was all the covid panic buying last year we were not affected anywhere near as bad as what I heard around the country.
 
Mrs had to give our neighbour a lift to work this morning, she only has a little Citeron C1 but wasn't sure she'd have enough fuel to get home from work, she is a nurse btw. All the fuel stations in the local area are completely dry, with some of them not expecting more until midweek.
On the plus side, apparently she loved how quiet peaceful and modern our BEV is, so is going to be shopping for one in 2022. :)
 
Self interest and the law of the jungle still seem to rule. Human beings are not rational!
blame the petrol stations for letting people fill up their boots illegally.

people claiming they can't get in to work because of no fuel should be sacked :P get a buses, trains and taxis like other people have too.

lol @ the people on twitface saying they can't get to work because they have no fuel, what do they think people who don't own cars do, spend hours travelling on public transport.

i'd sack anyone who didn't come in to work because it's not convenient without a car. obviously you could excuse some people who drive extreme distances, but what if there was a petrol shortage that lasted weeks or months? they better find an alternate way to work
 
Yea exactly, I'll just drive up to my nearest depo, do they take cash or card lol.

And your right, don't panic buy, but once people have started, it's too late not to if you need the petrol.

I had a third of a tank left when I filled up yesterday, I've got to take the kids on the school run all week then I plan on going to London and back on the weekend (about 140 mile round trip) I could have left it to the end of this week, but what then if there wasn't any?

What do you say? Your trip.to London isn't essential work, sure. But I bet neither is a hole ton of other people who are filling up either.

Correct
 
The more I heard the statement "There is plenty of fuel at the depots" the more annoyed I got with Shapps. It is just such a pointless argument to make to try and convince Joe public not to go out and panic buy.
yes Shapps just exacerbated the problem- as george ustuce is now doing too, just buy buy as (new?) normal

What could possibly go wrong???
interesting - hadn't seen regs change in the media - govt underwriting the insurance liability? (Aren't most lorries fitted with eye-tracking/drowiness monitors now.)


Interview this morning was saying absence in the uk of a collective agreement for lorry driver conditions is problematic, just done on an individual company basis.
- union rep on r4today.
 
blame the petrol stations for letting people fill up their boots illegally.

people claiming they can't get in to work because of no fuel should be sacked :p get a buses, trains and taxis like other people have too.

lol @ the people on twitface saying they can't get to work because they have no fuel, what do they think people who don't own cars do, spend hours travelling on public transport.

i'd sack anyone who didn't come in to work because it's not convenient without a car. obviously you could excuse some people who drive extreme distances, but what if there was a petrol shortage that lasted weeks or months? they better find an alternate way to work
Ok Phillip Green - got one star on your McDonalds management programme? The fact that you're logged into an internet forum on a Monday morning says it all.

You do realise that not every workplace is near to a bus stop or has train station near to it, and taxi's don't work when there's no fuel.
 
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