Fuel up/down again

Jono8 · 11 Sep 2012 at 18:56

[TW]Fox;22736289 said:
So oil is still more than $10 below the peaks since 4-5 months ago yet fuel is yet again touching record highs. Interesting.

They have us over a barrell!

Seriously though, it is very annoying to see it creeping up if there is no actual increase in exchange rates or oil prices?

[TW]Fox · 11 Sep 2012 at 19:14

Ivyforce said:
The investigation is also focusing on why at certain times oil majors and supermarkets can sell fuel below what some independent sites even buy it in for.

Excellent, so it might even result in higher prices for everyone.

flibbage0 · 11 Sep 2012 at 20:15

I need to hurry up and get myself on the road these prices are just depressing.

Chances of me ever owning a fast, naturally aspirated car are slim by the looks of things.

Muffin` · 11 Sep 2012 at 20:19

flibbage0 said:
I need to hurry up and get myself on the road these prices are just depressing.

Chances of me ever owning a fast, naturally aspirated car are slim by the looks of things.

It's not that expensive, I'm just glad I don't live in Ireland, Belgium or Portugal...

Princey · 11 Sep 2012 at 20:48

Muffin` said:
It's not that expensive, I'm just glad I don't live in Ireland, Belgium or Portugal...

Well it it's expensive. Prices have doubled since I past my test. I don't care if it's cheap compared to other locations, it's still very expensive.

Infact I remember a thread several years back were people were asked what price would cause them to hang up their keys. £1.50ppl was the most common answer including Fox's.

HEADRAT · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:10

For most people there is no alternative, it could be £5 pl and if you need to get to work and there is no public transport what are you supposed to do!

[TW]Fox · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:16

Princey said:
Infact I remember a thread several years back were people were asked what price would cause them to hang up their keys. £1.50ppl was the most common answer including Fox's.

I don't beleive I ever said I'd give up driving if fuel was £1.50 a litre. I simply don't rely on my car enough for that to be the case.

Minstadave · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:18

It'll just reach the point that we all go out and buy hybrids/plug ins.

Princey · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:19

I'm quite lucky in that public transit around here will get me anywhere I want to go.

However even at 140ppl for diesel here, I have changed my driving habits. I no longer just go for drives, I leave 15mins earlier for work so the traffic is more free flowing and I can drive smoother with less stop start and I drive lower on dual carriage ways and motorways.

Princey · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:20

[TW]Fox;22749793 said:
I don't beleive I ever said I'd give up driving if fuel was £1.50 a litre. I simply don't rely on my car enough for that to be the case.

This was several years back, when fuel first tipped £1. I'll see what I can find.

Muffin` · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:23

Princey said:
Well it it's expensive.

So much so that you've hung up your keys? Things are 'expensive' in life (note I said 'that expensive') but they're still affordable, and it's more affordable here in the UK then most parts of Europe. Students have cars, people way below average wage have cars, people even have two cars. It's not cheap either, but that's a good thing.

mjt · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:25

I was in Luxembourg last week. €1.50 for SUL. Never thought that would be a bargain!

Princey · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:25

Muffin` said:
So much so that you've hung up your keys?

No but the fact I've drastically changed my driving habits. So it's obviously too expensive to do what I want to do with my cars.

MrMoonX · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:31

The price of fuel effects so many other things such as food, if it keeps going up the way it has been everything is going to cost more. Which will be lovely especially as most normal people aren't getting pay rises

Muffin` · 11 Sep 2012 at 21:58

Princey said:
No but the fact I've drastically changed my driving habits. So it's obviously too expensive to do what I want to do with my cars.

You're missing the point, changing your driving habits is just a shift in budget priorities you still have two cars one of them being a V8! You're not at the point of choosing sustenance or 95 RON are you? It's more like foot down or a pint at the pub, choice... choices.

Muffin` · 11 Sep 2012 at 22:00

MrMoonX said:
Which will be lovely especially as most normal people aren't getting pay rises

So you're saying we should put wages up when the price of oil goes up? Watch out Christine Lagarde!

[TW]Fox · 11 Sep 2012 at 22:28

Princey said:
This was several years back, when fuel first tipped £1. I'll see what I can find.

Please do.

[TW]Fox · 11 Sep 2012 at 22:32

Princey said:
No but the fact I've drastically changed my driving habits. So it's obviously too expensive to do what I want to do with my cars.

You can afford a 600bhp car - this is about the time where you realise how daft you sound complaining that motoring is too expensive these days.

If this was 1985 you'd not be able to afford anything like what you have now.

Fuel is just one aspect of owning a car. It's particularly expensive, actually, I agree, but its ONE part of owning a car. And most of the rest of the parts of owning a car are actually very cheap for us here in the UK - especially compared to elsewhere in the world. Trying buying a decent car in Australia or taxing a decent car in Belgium...

Princey · 11 Sep 2012 at 22:35

What is the cost of living like in those counties compared to ours, excluding motoring?

[TW]Fox · 11 Sep 2012 at 22:44

Princey said:
What is the cost of living like in those counties compared to ours, excluding motoring?

Belgium and Australia? Probably higher, I'd imagine. Certainly not appreciably less. Ever tried buying a bar of chocolate in Australia?

I would take your point that motoring is cripplingly expensive if you were not sat beside the keys to a 600bhp V8 Coupe which you can afford to own simply as a toy. You own TWO cars! It can't be that expensive..