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FX60 has sneaked in, look at the lovely price.....

why do people care about prices of cpu's you don't want. i don't complain that a 8 way opteron chip is the same as a 2way opteron version but its shedloads, absolutely shedloads more. you can get a faster chip in any price bracket pretty much from amd than intel, so i would say they still offer the cheaper chips. they also still DO offer cheap chips, us deciding to buy a £280 dual core doesn't mean they've stopped doing £40 chips, just that YOU'VE DECIDED TO BUY A MORE EXPENSIVE ONE>

they've expanded their range, big whoop. i won't buy a fx60, i got a x2 3800 and a x2 4400+, i'm happy , i didn't really wanna spend that bit thats 4 cpu's i've got there. they are very good, very fast and overclock well. some people don't want to overclock, some people want to overclock but want the highest quality chips to start from. so amd should not offer these at all just to make you feel happy that you are buying the £280 top cpu , rather than the £800 top cpu.

as for benchmarks, thanks to gfx drivers offloading a little work in most games the fx60 is less than 0.5% behind the fx57 with its 200Mhz faster single core. in any other area the fx60 is faster, in any properly coded multithreaded app the fx60 stomps on the FX57.

remember also its about supply and demand, amd's manufacturing is limited, there are a certain amount of people that want the chips, EVERY business trys to price a product at a price point that will cause demand to be slightly higher than supply. if demand gets hugely higher than supply then you get angry people(x800xt pe, 7800 512mb, etc, etc). so you raise the price to keep demand lower. Thast why the 7800 gtx 512mb is priced as it is(though demands still too high leaving people angry). its business 101.

amd's marketshare and cpu's sold is increasing, it takes a long time to build new plants, is it fab 36 is opening very soon and will drop overall costs slightly to us as they can make more and keep supply higher, again business 101, once you have lots of chips you don't want endless supplies that are useless once new chips are made so you reduce costs to keep products moving out the door and not stacking up in a warehouse.
 
Anyone who buys one of these over a lower, overclockable X2 has got to be insane unless they are filthy rich and and eat their dinner from the breasts of young virgins. Who cares if it's the "best of the best" and "overclocks like a demon" if you read the reviews they couldn't even make make 3ghz. £800+ for a CPU that provides barely any headroom over previous CPU's and didn't even make 3ghz in the reviews... give me a break. Every time a new CPU is released the inexperienced users rave about how the overclock will be worth it and how it will annihilate the competition... those who have seen it all before realise a 200mhz speed bumb, despite an unlockable multi, is nothing special in the slightest except as a stock benchmark whore for reviewers. Top-end CPU's are for noobs who don't know how to overclock, or people who think buying the most unecessarily expensive CPU around will somehow compensate for their tiny weenie and lack of social life. :p
 
Richdog said:
Anyone who buys one of these over a lower, overclockable X2 has got to be insane unless they are filthy rich and and eat their dinner from the breasts of young virgins. Who cares if it's the "best of the best" and "overclocks like a demon" if you read the reviews they couldn't even make make 3ghz. £800+ for a CPU that provides barely any headroom over previous CPU's and didn't even make 3ghz in the reviews... give me a break. Every time a new CPU is released the inexperienced users rave about how the overclock will be worth it and how it will annihilate the competition... those who have seen it all before realise a 200mhz speed bumb, despite an unlockable multi, is nothing special in the slightest except as a stock benchmark whore for reviewers. Top-end CPU's are for noobs who don't know how to overclock, or people who think buying the most unecessarily expensive CPU around will somehow compensate for their tiny weenie and lack of social life. :p
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Could'nt agree more ! :D
 
I would normally defend the FX chips, but I cant with this one..

Unlocked multi's are very useful for phase change guys etc 57's easily hit 3.6 gig + .. but the 60 doesn't look as if its got a decent clock in it if early tests on other forums are anything to go by, oh & it suffers from the cold bug as well.
 
Richdog said:
Top-end CPU's are for noobs who don't know how to overclock
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Which is the majority of the population. Calling them "noobs" doesn't do you any favours, even though I know you did it in jest. :)

They are also for people who want ultimate power but don't want to void their warranty.

Or for people or businesses who have to buy "brand name" computers (99% of which won't overclock) but want the best performance they can get. This applies to Intel CPU's as well as AMDs.
 
clone said:
Sold my FX57 and 7800GTX for one of these babys :D
One rewiew had it clocked @3.2GHZ on the standered cooler.
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Not a wise idea, most are only clocking to 2.8-2.9 Prime Stable, just because they had it a 3.2Ghz dosnt mean it was stable :) Blimey I can boot in to windows @ 3Ghz on my X2 but fails Prime within seconds. ;)

Your choice, your money I guess :)
 
NeilMick said:
Really just a showing off product! Because things arent really CPU limited at the minute, surely it would be more sensible to invest in a couple os 7800GTX's in SLI. But I guess if you can afford that, then you can afford the FX60 aswell! :)
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Sorry but thats utter bs..... Things are very cpu limited today, not just SLI setups - my X1800XT 512mb is extremely CPU limited - it performs like a new card since I got an opteron running 2.8Ghz instead of a 3200+ running at 2.5Ghz.

Applications are, and will continue to be very cpu limited until everything is coded for dual core systems.
 
i wouldnt pay more than £250 for a cpu

the "bang for buck" term springs to mind

so it will work out in effect that you will be getting more for your money regarding some cpus that are 3times cheaper than the most expensive cpu.

come on, fx60 is an insane amount of money
 
Personally i dont see why people moan about price of this CPU, as people have said AMD have had to do a lot of research and hard work to get this baby and obviously want to make it profitable. If i had the cash then yes i would buy one but i havent but wont say its a stupid price as it isnt, As people say, You get what you pay for and this is the computer business where you will always pay a lot more for the best of the best. Unless you are going to buy one or give reasonably comments then why bother.

Sam
 
hyper7racer said:
Personally i dont see why people moan about price of this CPU, as people have said AMD have had to do a lot of research and hard work to get this baby and obviously want to make it profitable. If i had the cash then yes i would buy one but i havent but wont say its a stupid price as it isnt, As people say, You get what you pay for and this is the computer business where you will always pay a lot more for the best of the best. Unless you are going to buy one or give reasonably comments then why bother.

Sam
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But if i was them and i wated to make money id sell them cheaper to make them resonable. Then more people wil buy them less profet in the item but will sell more. It onee of them things tho the more people that buy them the more they wil stay at that price. If no one brought them then they would have to sell them cheaper just to gain some money back.
 
TBH, my X2 4400+ clocks to 2.6ghz (ok, not on stock volts - 1.47v) but that's fine because my water setup can handle it. Currently running @ 2.5ghz though because although small ftt stable at that speed, long ftt's failed. Could have been my memory or chipset - I think it was one of the two limiting me. Haven't been bothered to find out where the instability was though, too busy at the moment.
 
I would have thought AMD would have put more L2 cache on this FX60..then there standard daul cores (4800+,4400+).

I would have expected this FX60 to come out with at lest 2x 2mb L2 cache on it
 
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