G.skill Trident Neo 3800 CL14 issues
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My 2x16 kit has shipped - fun. So others who have pre-ordered will hopefully get theirs soon.
Not going to build until I move house though.... could be as long as late feb:/
Mine too. Hopefully here for the weekend.
Mine arrived today!
Stamped with “2020 Dec” - hot off the press
Mine arrives on Monday. Shame you can’t give them a quick test to see if they’ll do 14 14 14 28 42
Mine said it would arrive on Monday (DHL?) but I then got an update today at about 1pm to say it would be today!
Yeah sorry - it’ll be in it’s packaging for a while :|
I’m sort of assuming it’s exactly the same as other ram in the range that has been binned to go at the XMP speed. We’ll see how well it does. Going for the Unity-X board when that lands which will hopefully help.
Make sure you post your settings so I can steal them :]
Already on it! I’ll be going for daily timings on these, but hoping it can be similar to those I’m running now as they’re rock stable at all 14s with tight sub timings. Unity is meant to be great for Ram so you won’t have a problem.
mrpils says he has more stability with his 16x2 so maybe better results can be had!
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Mine arrived today!
Stamped with “2020 Dec” - hot off the press
Out of interest when did you orders yours? I ended up cancelling from Germany and ordered from Ireland instead.
Yes it was from a place in Ireland - although the logo suggested it was UK based!
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How long did it take from ordering it for it to be delivered?
I preordered it on 25 November. Got a dispatch notice on Wednesday saying delivery by Monday. Got a text Thursday afternoon to say it was out for delivery.
Pretty amazing really that I got them on 10th December when they were made in Asia in December (according to the stamp on the sticks).
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Cheers. Just working out if I’ll get mine before Xmas if your delivery time is anything to go by.
Mine Arrived yesterday. Currently working out the best settings for them, so still have some sub timings on Auto for now. What I have found out though at least on my set is Gear Down Mode has to be enabled.
Here is my current settings so far:
Interestingly, with my old set, I could not post at 2000 FCLK.
With this set it works no problem.
Ill continue to work on them.
I never tested for long stability with gear down disabled and 1T with the Single Rank set, but it never caused any issue doing all the other types of benchmarks on it. If im not wrong, Geardown enabled over rides command rate and does a 1.5T.
XMP sets it to 1T automatically though with Gear down enabled. I also noticed on DRAM calculator Fast settings with Dual Rank Ram recommends Geardown enabled and disabled with the Single Rank equivalent.
You would only set FCLK to 2000 if you were going to run 4000 Mhz Ram. I havent tried doing anything other than boot into windows with 4000 yet. I've heard that it isn't really stable yet until a new AGESA is released.
Ill post more timing later once I have finished work and tweaked it more.
Turns out the New Asus Dark Hero Bios 3003 fixed the FCLK as I can now run 4000 mhz / 2000 mhz on both. I do need to ramp up VSOC to 1.15 and the other voltages to 1.075 to get it stable though. Here are some of the results I have got. I aim to run the first one as my daily.
Note: I have since changed TRDRDSD to 4 and tRDRDDD to 1
Dual Rank - 2x16GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 14 14 14
Dual Rank - 2x16GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 13 13 13
Dual Rank - 2 x 16GB - 4000 Mhz CL14
I am trying to work out why the 4000 is slower than the 3800. Perhaps the AGESA needs updating with the compatibility patch (Unless that's already been done) or there are some voltages that need tweaking. I won't be using this other than testing with though as im not comfortable running 1.15 VSOC
Single Rank - 2 x 8GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 14 14
Single Rank - 2 x 8GB 4000 Mhz CL 14
Note: I have since changed TRDRDSD to 4 and tRDRDDD to 1
Dual Rank - 2x16GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 14 14 14
Dual Rank - 2x16GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 13 13 13
Dual Rank - 2 x 16GB - 4000 Mhz CL14
I am trying to work out why the 4000 is slower than the 3800. Perhaps the AGESA needs updating with the compatibility patch (Unless that's already been done) or there are some voltages that need tweaking. I won't be using this other than testing with though as im not comfortable running 1.15 VSOC
Single Rank - 2 x 8GB - 3800 Mhz CL14 14 14
Single Rank - 2 x 8GB 4000 Mhz CL 14
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I tried to make a thread about this a while ago to avoid using 4 sticks for ram overclocking, and for best results in most cases you need a 2 slots only board in daisy chain configuration.
Even the distance between the CPU socket and ram modules reduces overclock potential as more signal = more chance for errors.
I was already struggling with ram overclocking on all my previous boards, and it wasn't until I went with Asus Mini ITX with 2 slots and what they call 'Optimem' that I was finally able to overclock ram. MSI 2 slot boards should be similar, but Asus also make full size boards with only 2 ram slots optimized for overclocking. Gigabyte often do a thing where their 2 slot boards are still wired for 4 slots with two phantom slots and good luck getting past 3200 Mhz on those.
Overclocking for ram needs very stringent selection of both the motherboard and CPU, more so than the ram itself.
Even the distance between the CPU socket and ram modules reduces overclock potential as more signal = more chance for errors.
I was already struggling with ram overclocking on all my previous boards, and it wasn't until I went with Asus Mini ITX with 2 slots and what they call 'Optimem' that I was finally able to overclock ram. MSI 2 slot boards should be similar, but Asus also make full size boards with only 2 ram slots optimized for overclocking. Gigabyte often do a thing where their 2 slot boards are still wired for 4 slots with two phantom slots and good luck getting past 3200 Mhz on those.
Overclocking for ram needs very stringent selection of both the motherboard and CPU, more so than the ram itself.
I tested 3866 and 3933, 3866 got an Aida score of 53.3 ns, and 3933 the same but needed a 1.15 VSOC with 1.075 / 1.075
Both were not stable and crashed when running the AIDA 64 benchmark, so would need looser timings which I would take too long to do. im happy running 3800. Need to do a stability test though on the timings I currently have, although they are working for benchmarks
Not a hijack OC2000 but found this thread very helpful for tuning my RAM. I've got an old 3600CL16 (4x8GB) kit i used with 8700k and decided to transfer it over rather than buy a 3800CL14 set.
Spent a wee bit of time with them and seems i've got 3600CL14 dialled in. If i run with tRCDRD14 it throws an error which was expected, seems happy at 15. Also quickly check increasing clock whilst keeping timings / voltages and 3666 ran no problem, no boot for any higher.
Any suggestions welcome but think it's about there. I'll need to run OCCT mem etc and stress them a bit more than DRAM Calc.
Not sure whether to keep them at 3600 or 3666, any impact on all of these other clocks? Fabric etc. I'll trim voltages once i start proper stress testing.
3600 15DRD
3600 14DRD
3666 No change apart from clock
Spent a wee bit of time with them and seems i've got 3600CL14 dialled in. If i run with tRCDRD14 it throws an error which was expected, seems happy at 15. Also quickly check increasing clock whilst keeping timings / voltages and 3666 ran no problem, no boot for any higher.
Any suggestions welcome but think it's about there. I'll need to run OCCT mem etc and stress them a bit more than DRAM Calc.
Not sure whether to keep them at 3600 or 3666, any impact on all of these other clocks? Fabric etc. I'll trim voltages once i start proper stress testing.
3600 15DRD
3600 14DRD
3666 No change apart from clock
