G.skill Trident Neo 3800 CL14 issues
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It's up to you really, with it enabled it'll drop the CAS automatically as far as I'm aware, even if you think you set a figure, say CL17 in the BIOS it could in reality be running CL18. Personally, if I want to get the best timings I'd want to know what I set is what I get.
I don't think we're talking much here. Also just doing a quick read up shows it also negates the CMD rate you set in the BIOS. A quick read here shows if you can get 1T running with your OC stable, then Gear Down should be disabled, as you'll see a smidge more performance.Memory OC Showdown: Frequency vs. Memory Timings - AMD Community
Cool, I'll go back to the drawing board and run with it disabled. Few more hours of fun!
Until it goes wrong, doesn't boot, and you have to clear the CMOS haha. I've done that a few times. Nice that they hide the CMOS battery under the GPU. Grr!
If it helps also...
- tRDRD SCL and tWRWR SCL can be upped in pairs to aid stability. So I see you are at 4-4, try 6-6.
- tRC is tRP+ tRAS which I see you have set correctly.
- tFAW is tRRDS x 4 but you can try x6. So that looks correct currently, but you could always try tFAW 24.
- tRTP I think is usually 1/2 x tWR. So in your case 1/2 x 12 which is 6. I see you have tRTP at 8. So in that case tWR should be 16.
But yea, see what you get with Gear Down disabled and CMD 1T vs what you achieved with Gear Down enabled and see which seems the best.
Make sure you have Spread Spectrum disabled also (for stability).
Happy hunting!
Spent around 5 hrs with it last night, 2 of which just trying to boot.
GDD I've got max boot of 3400 1t but this requires training from 3000 up. Try a cold boot in at 3400 after clear cmos and it's an F9. When it finally boots 3400, change to cl14 and all else on auto results in a canny amount of errors in mem test straight away. Also noticed if I train up to 3400 on 1.35vdimm than change to 1.45vdimm it F9s and need to start again. Not really worth the hassle and from a quick latency check 3400c16 with GDD wont be better than 3600c14 GDE.
So looks like 4 sticks 1t needs to be GDE and 3600c14 gets around 53-50 read / write with 61-62 latency.
Think I'll maybe go pick up a set of 2x16 3800c14 for a play with. I'll also pull 2 sticks out today and see how these get on as a pair.
Been a while since I've oc'd mem properly (back in my benching days) so having hours of fun right now, makes up for the slightly boring ryzen chip.
GDD I've got max boot of 3400 1t but this requires training from 3000 up. Try a cold boot in at 3400 after clear cmos and it's an F9. When it finally boots 3400, change to cl14 and all else on auto results in a canny amount of errors in mem test straight away. Also noticed if I train up to 3400 on 1.35vdimm than change to 1.45vdimm it F9s and need to start again. Not really worth the hassle and from a quick latency check 3400c16 with GDD wont be better than 3600c14 GDE.
So looks like 4 sticks 1t needs to be GDE and 3600c14 gets around 53-50 read / write with 61-62 latency.
Think I'll maybe go pick up a set of 2x16 3800c14 for a play with. I'll also pull 2 sticks out today and see how these get on as a pair.
Been a while since I've oc'd mem properly (back in my benching days) so having hours of fun right now, makes up for the slightly boring ryzen chip.
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OCing ram is always the least fun thing with many windows corruptions if an overclock fails. I need to learn to boot windows off an external drive in the future while testing new ram.
Always backup your user folders and anything else important on your Windows drive before OCing ram.
Always backup your user folders and anything else important on your Windows drive before OCing ram.
Thats me done. Geardown disabled im not going to bother with. Couldnt get it off at 3666 1t. 3666 is the highest i can boot on 1t, ended up booting 3800 on 2t and keeping GDM enabled. Absolutely hammered the mem as low as it'll go, highest read / write /copy and lowest latency i can get (4dimm SR). Passes TM5 no problem. Doesnt seem to be much difference vs 2x16DR 3800C14 to i'll call this one job done i reckon. 
Thats me done. Geardown disabled im not going to bother with. Couldnt get it off at 3666 1t. 3666 is the highest i can boot on 1t, ended up booting 3800 on 2t and keeping GDM enabled. Absolutely hammered the mem as low as it'll go, highest read / write /copy and lowest latency i can get (4dimm SR). Passes TM5 no problem. Doesnt seem to be much difference vs 2x16DR 3800C14 to i'll call this one job done i reckon.
Interesting what you have done with those sub timings there. Ill have to have a play with something similar. I got 2 WHEA errors in OCCT, not sure if that's an OCCT thing or if the my memory needs tweaking or more voltage offset on the VCORE as Im using PBO with CO. I will try again with PBO disabled at stock. Im also going to have to work on some direct air flow on the DIMMs though as OCCT sent my RAM to 50C within minutes. Putting a fan directly over them kept them at 30C, but not practical for daily use.
Think mine hovered in the low 40s. I'll need to start reducing voltages now and see what I can away with. Need a break so been tyring to figure out how to get pbo enabled without using ryzen master! Nice learning curve right now!
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4 DIMMs at 3800 1:1 is more than possible but does require a CPU on the strong side of the IMC spectrum and the right modules. Usually, bumping IOD VDDG and CCD will help if hitting training issues occasionally.
Here is an old Intel 4266C17 4x8GB bdie kit running on the CH8 at 3733@C14 1:1.
VSOC @ 1.05v
VDIMM 1.45v
Here is an old Intel 4266C17 4x8GB bdie kit running on the CH8 at 3733@C14 1:1.
VSOC @ 1.05v
VDIMM 1.45v
Hi all,
sorry to pick up someone elses thread. But I found a lot useful information here and there is still one thing for my ram where I don't get my head around...I was hoping someone has an idea for a solution or just tells me that it's not possible
I have the TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB 3600 cl14 2x16GB kit and these are my current settings:
https://imgur.com/a/23MA5uN
AIDA benchmark gives me 55.8ns latency so I think I'm doing good. But it bothers me that I somehow can't get cl14 running at 3800mhz. WHen I set voltage to 1.5 my system is starting up and everything seems to run smoothly but when I test the settings in Karhu I get an error mostly at 170-180%. I tried already less tight timinigs and and slightly more voltage (1.55) with the same result.
Has anyone any ideas what I could do? If you have any tipps for me how to improve the current settings - they of course would also be welcomed
Thanks!
(Also somehow it seems I'm to stupid to get a picture embedded here...sorry about that)
sorry to pick up someone elses thread. But I found a lot useful information here and there is still one thing for my ram where I don't get my head around...I was hoping someone has an idea for a solution or just tells me that it's not possible
I have the TeamGroup Xtreem ARGB 3600 cl14 2x16GB kit and these are my current settings:
https://imgur.com/a/23MA5uN
AIDA benchmark gives me 55.8ns latency so I think I'm doing good. But it bothers me that I somehow can't get cl14 running at 3800mhz. WHen I set voltage to 1.5 my system is starting up and everything seems to run smoothly but when I test the settings in Karhu I get an error mostly at 170-180%. I tried already less tight timinigs and and slightly more voltage (1.55) with the same result.
Has anyone any ideas what I could do? If you have any tipps for me how to improve the current settings - they of course would also be welcomed
Thanks!
(Also somehow it seems I'm to stupid to get a picture embedded here...sorry about that
)