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G-sync + 980Ti need a little help...

stooeh said:
Source? (no pun)
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This means that the client time is always a little bit behind the server time. Furthermore, client input packets are also delayed on their way back, so the server is processing temporally delayed user commands. In addition, each client has a different network delay which varies over time due to other background traffic and the client's framerate. These time differences between server and client causes logical problems, becoming worse with increasing network latencies. In fast-paced action games, even a delay of a few milliseconds can cause a laggy gameplay feeling and make it hard to hit other players or interact with moving objects. Besides bandwidth limitations and network latencies, information can get lost due to network packet loss.

Worth a read
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
 
String said:
It's that a custom loop? The refresh rate is irrelevant, you should never be hitting 70c on a 980Ti under water.

What's your set up?
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No custom loop its one off the all in one water cooled (Inno3d Variety)

I had my Pc on a custom bench on top of my desk and it never went over 60ish with FPS locked at 60.

Bench has been moved inside a kitchen cupboard (don't ask) I have the intake fan on the rad pulling in air from outside i also have 2 fans pulling in air from the front of the cupboard pushing air across the graphics card and two fans at the back of the cupboard pulling air out.

Playing The Division last night @ 2560x1080 with all settings maxed and hitting 72 degrees (FPS was pretty high)

One thing i just remembered is that I think i may have put priority over power rather than temp limit in afterburner which maybe why its going over 70..
 
enigma27 said:
No custom loop its one off the all in one water cooled (Inno3d Variety)

I had my Pc on a custom bench on top of my desk and it never went over 60ish with FPS locked at 60.

Bench has been moved inside a kitchen cupboard (don't ask) I have the intake fan on the rad pulling in air from outside i also have 2 fans pulling in air from the front of the cupboard pushing air across the graphics card and two fans at the back of the cupboard pulling air out.

Playing The Division last night @ 2560x1080 with all settings maxed and hitting 72 degrees (FPS was pretty high)

One thing i just remembered is that I think i may have put priority over power rather than temp limit in afterburner which maybe why its going over 70..
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It's performing worse than an air cooled card, mate.

Forget the FPS as it means nothing.

Disable Gsync and Vsync temporarily.
Open your most graphically intense game (Witcher 3?)
Pump settings to full/ultra
Make sure there's no frame limit

Leave the game running with the AB overlay showing gpu usage at 99%. No other stat matters, just the usage.

See what you're temperature is after 5 minutes.
 
String said:
It's performing worse than an air cooled card, mate.

Forget the FPS as it means nothing.

Disable Gsync and Vsync temporarily.
Open your most graphically intense game (Witcher 3?)
Pump settings to full/ultra
Make sure there's no frame limit

Leave the game running with the AB overlay showing gpu usage at 99%. No other stat matters, just the usage.

See what you're temperature is after 5 minutes.
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Should i had AB set to prioritize power or temp?

I am maybe thinking the fan on the rad aint upto much (cant feel it blowing anything through the fins on the rad) problem with them is the fan is hard wired into the GFX card so are not easily replaced without screwing up warranty
 
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Fps does mean something the higher your frame rate more power the GPU will be running = higher heat. But I do agree water cooled his temp are little high.
 
my 980ti at 1500 core doesn't tend to go over 60-65c in most games so maybe his fan profiles are a little wrong or like he said the fan isn't up to it.
 
enigma27 said:
Should i had AB set to prioritize power or temp?

I am maybe thinking the fan on the rad aint upto much (cant feel it blowing anything through the fins on the rad) problem with them is the fan is hard wired into the GFX card so are not easily replaced without screwing up warranty
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AB priority doesn't matter. It sounds to me like the water isn't moving through the rad, but it could very well be the fan. Can you run the fan at 100% and see if it lowers temperatures? . What kind of AIO is it?

shankly1985 said:
Fps does mean something the higher your frame rate more power the GPU will be running = higher heat. But I do agree water cooled his temp are little high.
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FPS is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if it's 20fps or 200fps ... as long as the usage is 99% the card is being pushed to its limit.
 
String said:
AB priority doesn't matter. It sounds to me like the water isn't moving through the rad, but it could very well be the fan. Can you run the fan at 100% and see if it lowers temperatures? . What kind of AIO is it?



FPS is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if it's 20fps or 200fps ... as long as the usage is 99% the card is being pushed to its limit.
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You sure? Because am sure frame rate loads is how much a GPU load is pushed.
For example a 980ti might only need 60% for 60fps while a 970 might need 100% for 60fps

This just am example
 
shankly1985 said:
You sure? Because am sure frame rate loads is how much a GPU load is pushed.
For example a 980ti might only need 60% for 60fps while a 970 might need 100% for 60fps

This just am example
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You're right in that respect, but for the purposes of testing for temperature the FPS should be ignored and usage needs to be as close to 99% as possible else the test means nothing.
 
shankly1985 said:
You sure? Because am sure frame rate loads is how much a GPU load is pushed.
For example a 980ti might only need 60% for 60fps while a 970 might need 100% for 60fps

This just am example
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I know this is the case as with v-sync on and keeping FPS at 60 no matter what game Temps never went over 60 ( less demanding games temps were lower than that.. )

Its only when i turn off v-sync and put more demand on the game i.e pushing more FPS the temp goes over 60...

For instance with G-sync on / V-sync on pushing 200fps on CS:go temps hover around 55.. but put something like The division on with max settings pushing 100fps and temps hit 70.. GPU usage would have been much higher on the division than CS:GO

I will give it a go tonight with withcher 3 or something similar and see how i get on..
 
Like I say, you need to ignore everything else and just make sure usage is as close to 99% as possible. It's the only way to test the card.

Having vsync enabled has been concealing the issue. Your card might need to be RMAd or it might be down to install method ie no air movement in that cupboard.

I wouldn't be paying that amount of money for a hybrid card that performs worse than an air cooled card.
 
String here are the results of a 5 minute run in witcher 3 with v-sync / g-sync off

Max temp was 78 Degrees

fan curve i have set-up as 30/30 40/40 50/50 60/60 70/70 80/80

Even at 100% fan speed it does not feel like the fan is passing air through the rad.. although if i blow smoke through it it gets sucked in.. this is not the same as my two fans on my CPU rad which i can definatley fee the air passing through

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It looks like passive cooling for sure. 78c is way too high for water after 5 minutes.

You got any pictures of your rig?
Is there any way to tell if the pump is running?
 
heres the system..

two intakes on the front.. two intakes to the right for the CPU rad.. two outakes from the rear and the intake on the gpu rad

not sure how to tell if the pump is running.. sometimes i can hear it swoosh but not heard it in a while

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Could you run that test again, but this time leave it for closer to half an hour? Obviously, abort if the temperature goes past 85c. I'd be interested in just how hot the card will go in such a relatively short space of time.

Touch the rad with your hand before you start the test, and touch it when the temperature is back at the high 70s. See if the rad feels much warmer.

BTW, I would say if the fan is running at all then you can probably rule it out as any air movement is usually enough.
 
String said:
Could you run that test again, but this time leave it for closer to half an hour? Obviously, abort if the temperature goes past 85c. I'd be interested in just how hot the card will go in such a relatively short space of time.

Touch the rad with your hand before you start the test, and touch it when the temperature is back at the high 70s. See if the rad feels much warmer.

BTW, I would say if the fan is running at all then you can probably rule it out as any air movement is usually enough.
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rad gets really hot when gaming... just checking the power cables as it has one for the rad although i am sure that's also power the fan so if that was not working then it wouldn't be spinning.

strange right now its idling at 26 degrees in windows
 
ok tried another fan made no difference to the temps..

just shook the rad and heard some movement so now wondering if the pump has failed
 
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