The press have their story because of one or two idiots and can now dismiss the protesters as pinko commie anarchists. The eloquent protesters I saw interviewed on newsnight last night will be forgotten.
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The press have their story because of one or two idiots and can now dismiss the protesters as pinko commie anarchists. The eloquent protesters I saw interviewed on newsnight last night will be forgotten.
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Some people are very cruel .....
Even the eloquent ones cannot say what they actually want, how they expect it to work or why everyone should ditch everything they do to embrace whatever lifestyle they are trying to promote.
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I have to say the BBC coverage is a bit one sided, watching it you'd think that the whole summit was about Obama. They barely mention the other leaders.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23g20+OR+G20
That Twitter stream will give you a better overall view than the BBC will.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23g20+OR+G20
That Twitter stream will give you a better overall view than the BBC will.
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I think you've just described SC pretty well there
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I walked up for a look after work yesterday and saw a load of the anti-capitalist, anti-globalisation lot (or whatever they stand for) eating Domino's Pizza in Queen street... oh the ironing!
I work near Oxford Street and late afternoon it was much busier than it normally would be. I think everyone who came down for the protests decided to go shopping afterwards.
I think you've just described SC pretty well there
Possibly, but at least SC isn't disrupting people and damaging property to support their unstated ideas.
? i suspect they werent trying to promote their own agenda at all....merely venting frustration against an appropriate and fitting target. (in this case RBS bank)
Felt staged....I almost feel that the hammer was put into the protesters hands they are then shown where a Bank was and led to it..... protester then proceeds to smash n destroy...getting out all that anger and frustration.......
hrmmmm... once the feelings have gone then we find out if the objections have more substantive meat to them or whether it was purely emotional.
hrmmm... kinda spooky
strange the climate change protest went on without any problems and the organisers are praising the police for letting them get on with it
seems if you behave yourselves and lawfuly protest without causing any aggro, then you dont get hemmed in and hit..but when you throw things and smash property the police take this as a sign of aggression..who would have thought it eh?
seems if you behave yourselves and lawfuly protest without causing any aggro, then you dont get hemmed in and hit..but when you throw things and smash property the police take this as a sign of aggression..who would have thought it eh?
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Do you have a job?
The protesters, both eloquent and violent are the same people who were around last year, the year before etc. They haven't changed. They are the same people they've always been.
What's changed is that they are now unhappy, frustrated, angry etc. They didn't just wake up one morning with these emotions, they are in response to the environment in which they find themselves. Protesting is as natural a response to the current environment as lower house prices and increasing unemployment.
What's at fault here, deserving of criticism is the system that created the change in environment, not the protesters.
What's changed is that they are now unhappy, frustrated, angry etc. They didn't just wake up one morning with these emotions, they are in response to the environment in which they find themselves. Protesting is as natural a response to the current environment as lower house prices and increasing unemployment.
What's at fault here, deserving of criticism is the system that created the change in environment, not the protesters.
Again though, this is a suggestion with no content. Claiming the system must change, while offering no constructive suggestions how is pointless.
The system works better than the alternatives that have been proposed or tried in the past, sure there is room for reform and consideration for changes, but ultimately, in a world where resources are finite, you need a system of distribution for those resources.
What alternative are you suggesting?
Had a small powered dingy down the thames earlier with a yellow poster saying 'Can you fix it' or something to that bob the builder effect, heading downriver Excel centre way.
The clipper flew past with 2 black ninja boats alongside like an escort.
IT WAS THAT EXCITING !
The clipper flew past with 2 black ninja boats alongside like an escort.
IT WAS THAT EXCITING !
I'm not suggesting any alternative - as you will have read. That certainly does not exclude protesting and criticism though!
Recognising the need for change without suggesting what that change should be is certainly not pointless.
Recognising the need for change without suggesting what that change should be is certainly not pointless.
thats seem to be the case with the majority of the protestors as well though. no solutions but plenty to moan about, in the end it all just smacks of soundbites (down with the system, whatever the system may be) or bandwagon jumping
It is pointless though, it's meaningless to demand change when you have no suggestions of what form that change should take, because without suggestions on what form that change should be, or what benefits you hope to derive from unspecified changes, the entire thing can simply be (and is, in the case of Gx protestors by the vast majority of people) dismissed as whinging.
The situation is made all the worse by many people being involved in these protests after reaping the benefits of the current system...
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Doesn't seem to be much protesting going on today, have they all gone back to work?
