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^ Exactly...but as you say, almost impossible to execute. Though an episode or two with a long beard and a hood and it still could have maybe worked...he hasn't been seen since season one remember.
Qyburn did turn up in Harenhal in the books, but we first meet him when Jaime is being held captive by the Brave Companions, and he treats his hand iirc...he might be mentioned earlier though?
 
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Pighardia said:
^ Exactly...but as you say, almost impossible to execute. Though an episode or two with a long beard and a hood and it still could have maybe worked...he hasn't been seen since season one remember.
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Yeah... I wondered if they might try that approach. Still, hard to do effectively on TV though, and the impact would never match that in the books.

I agree that it was an awesome part of the books though... I genuinely didn't figure it out beforehand either, so it made for quite the revelation :)
 
Martini1991 said:
We are getting 2 seasons per book though now?
Which to be frank, we need, it won't be too long till we're ahead of the books.
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That's the plan for the third book - whether that will continue to subsequent books I don't know (and I've only read up until the third book so I don't know whether it's realistic).

if we do see two seasons per book, and a closer adaptation of the novels, then you won't see me complaining :) Some things will still need to be adjusted for TV though (due to exposition etc).
 
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On a related note, the thing that most disappointed me was the lack of any kind of battle from the Night's watch vs Wights conflict. It was such a huge climax to the last series and then... what? A few sword-clash sounds? A couple of cuts on the Lord Commander's face? Definitely something of an anti-climax. There were a dozen white walkers in with the Wights - how did the nights watch take them down (if you've read the books then you'll know what I'm getting at).
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I thought my TV had broken when it was just a black screen :p It's a little disappointing but then Sam was never out of camp anyway in the books so I suppose it was easier to just omit it. They have some pretty tight time restraints too.
 
Duff-Man said:
That's the plan for the third book - whether that will continue to subsequent books I don't know (and I've only read up until the third book so I don't know whether it's realistic).
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2 seasons out of 'Feast'....no thanks:p

It will have to be totally reworked anyway, because of Feast and Dance covedring the same time period. I would probably stretch 'Storm' out so that it overlaps with the next to tbh...there is more than enough content
 
Have to say I found it a bit "meh", sadly. It's the first time I've watched a season of GoT having read further in the books before doing so, and it seems to have detracted from the magic a bit.
 
Currently a fair bit into book 3 while watching the new season.

So far I've enjoyed it - perhaps a little slow for my liking in the first episode but moving like lightening compared to the walking dead (so I can't really complain).

Shame the series spoiled the Arstan Whitebeard twist (as I hadn't read that reveal yet) - as I thought I was far enough in to watch the first episode spoiler free (with the intention of pulling far ahead during the week!).

I can understand why they've changed as much as they did - as if you compress the story to fit into episodes you need to create new story vehicles/plot points to make it all fit, it's not prefect but the translation from books to TV never is.

As the series doesn't have narration (which is how many of the characters inner motivations are shown in the books) - it's going to require tweaks for it to make sense to people who have not read the books (which let's face it, I'd wager is most of the people who watch it).
 
elmarko said:
Shame the series spoiled the Arstan Whitebeard twist (as I hadn't read that reveal yet) - as I thought I was far enough in to watch the first episode spoiler free (with the intention of pulling far ahead during the week!).
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Seems like it will be spoiling a whole lot more with the Theon stuff taken from book 5.
 
I presume I'm allowed to ask a few questions about series 1 (book 1?) in here?

What I don't understand is why the army of the north with Robb Stark in command didn't just send word to Stannis and Renly and then combine with the Bartheons to form one large army with the task of putting the rightful heir on the throne (Stannis). I know Renly was disputing things as well but he could probably be persuaded to join them in the defeat of a mutal enemy (Lannisters).

Robb didn't want the crown. He just wants to defeat the Lannisters and (like his Father) restore the rightful ruler. I don't see why he couldn't join forces with Stannis and/or Renly and attack the Lannisters.

Surely that would have made more sense?
 
Errol said:
I presume I'm allowed to ask a few questions about series 1 (book 1?) in here?

What I don't understand is why the army of the north with Robb Stark in command didn't just send word to Stannis and Renly and then combine with the Bartheons to form one large army with the task of putting the rightful heir on the throne (Stannis). I know Renly was disputing things as well but he could probably be persuaded to join them in the defeat of a mutal enemy (Lannisters).

Robb didn't want the crown. He just wants to defeat the Lannisters and (like his Father) restore the rightful ruler. I don't see why he couldn't join forces with Stannis and/or Renly and attack the Lannisters.

Surely that would have made more sense?
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I think because Stannis was on Dragonstone, an island level with KingsLanding he would attack by boat, however the Lannister armies were in the Twins and Riverrun, which splits the north from the south. It was a better and more strategic plan to hit a badly defended KingsLanding with the small army Stannis had. (Or so I interrupted it)
If he joined Robb in the North, then I don't know if the added men would have been enough to push on Kingslanding with the whole Lanister army couped up there.
 
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Simple really. Stannis would never ally with anyone who would not support him as king, and neither of them would.

An alliance between North and Renly was on the cards(with the North and independent Kingdom), but Stannis put a stop to that.
 
When Rob Stark was simply Lord of Winterfell, an alliance with Stannis would have been possible. Had Ned Stark survived, such an alliance would have been inevitable. However once Rob's men proclaimed him King in the North then any alliance with Stannis went out of the window. Stannis, in his mind, will be undisputed king of the seven kingdoms, and will not compromise in any way.

Renly was a little more flexible, allowing Rob to keep calling himself king in the north so long as he pledged feilty to him. Of course, we never got to see Rob's reaction to that due to Renly's untimely death at the hands of Melisandre's creepy shadow-queef.
 
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Robb got suckered into the idea of splitting the north from the rest, to remain a friendly to any new king of King's Landing, but sacrifice no men to any future wars of the iron throne (after killing the Lannisters of course), however Stannis with his new god Rhollor and Melisandre telling him he must rule all the lands of Westeros meant he didn't like the idea of a King in the North. Even that could probably have worked itself out, he is the rightful heir after all (ignoring Dany because her existence is more or less unknown), but then you had Renly who was being a super annoying spoilt brat and somehow decided he would be King, he would not bend the knee to Stannis, nor Robb. Robb was on the verge of an aliance with Renly but due to Melisandres insistance Renly met a dark demise.

Moving on to a Robb, Stannis aliance, well Tywin has pretty much cut RObb off from forming any forward attack on King's Landing meaning there's not a chance of a commbined attack on King's Landing. This is all of course before you even consider the difficulties Robb has in book 2 with the north being picked off castle by castle by the ironborn.

THat's what I've taken from the books anyway, sorry for my ****poor grammar btw.
 
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