Gamers, What's Your Audio Set Up?

If you get passive speakers you'll need a stereo amplifier as well. I think the Topping DAC is variable pre out option? If so a stereo power amp will work. Or if you want a stereo amp so you have a actual volume control and multiple inputs/outputs etc.

ahh thanks. that is good to know! It does have a pre-amp mode yes. Does that mean it still does it's DAC thing too when in pre-amp mode or does it switch functionality completely? As you might be able to tell, I am clueless with the audio stuff :)
 
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ahh thanks. that is good to know! It does have a pre-amp mode yes. Does that mean it still does it's DAC thing too when in pre-amp mode or does it switch functionality completely? As you might be able to tell, I am clueless with the audio stuff :)

yes it'll be a dac & pre amp. Make sure you have it in pre amp mode and it's a low volume otherwise you'll blow your speakers.
 
yes it'll be a dac & pre amp. Make sure you have it in pre amp mode and it's a low volume otherwise you'll blow your speakers.

thank-you, I will keep that in mind. Weirdly in pre-amp mode it goes from 0 to minus 99 rather than 0-99 lol. Confused me even further. So just to make sure I understand, because it has a pre-amp mode, I could go with just set of passive speakers in pre-amp mode. But if I bought active speakers, I would use the DAC mode. And if I wanted for some weird reason to use DAC mode with passive speakers, I would then need a pre-amp as well.

I think I might watch a newbie video or two later lol.

Thanks for the advice good Sir :)
 
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No, if you buy passive speakers you'll need a stereo amplifier or two monoblocs ie the fosi monos.

If you bought active speakers you can connect the topping straight into the them

The topping will always act as a DAC, any digital signal will be converted from Digital to Analogue - that is what a DAC is. Some DAC's are just DAC's only, with line output, but some have pre amp output, which is variable so then you connect that into power amplifier.

You will need one pre amp somewhere long the chain, ie if you have active speakers they typically have their own volume control, so feeding those fixed level is fine.
 
No, if you buy passive speakers you'll need a stereo amplifier or two monoblocs ie the fosi monos.

If you bought active speakers you can connect the topping straight into the them

The topping will always act as a DAC, any digital signal will be converted from Digital to Analogue - that is what a DAC is. Some DAC's are just DAC's only, with line output, but some have pre amp output, which is variable so then you connect that into power amplifier.

You will need one pre amp somewhere long the chain, ie if you have active speakers they typically have their own volume control, so feeding those fixed level is fine.

ahh ok. The clue was in the name of 'pre-amp' not 'instead-of amp' lol. I think for simplicities sake (and so I don't mess it up), I will look for active ones haha.

edit: after your helpful post and watching a video (from Badseed Tech), I get it now :) thanks again mate, appreciated!
 
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For Speakers I have a NAD 3020D > Elac B5.2
Headphones
Audio GD NFB 11 > Phillips Fidelio X2 Using a Vmoda boom pro for mic. Vmoda isnt great and at max volume there is some channel imbalance
Audio GD NFB 11 (DAC not the best) > Bottlehead Crack > HD 650

Recently upgraded speakers and happy on that front. Interested in getting a better mic and some new headphones for gaming. Longer term will get a schiit DAC.

Considering just getting a modmic for HD650, thoughts on MODMIC ? Thinking USB will be better?
Anyone have DT 880 600 Ohm? (Need to be >=300 ohm to play well with Crack as its OTL)
 
Considering just getting a modmic for HD650, thoughts on MODMIC ? Thinking USB will be better?

Not sure if you bought one but I still have my original Modmic UNI (3.5mm) although I haven't used it much. Recently they released the new Modmic UNI 2 / USB 2 which definitely made improvements. USB is better in that you avoid noise and are not at the mercy of whatever you are plugging into. I bought the UNI as it is more versatile for plugging into a any 3.5mm input.

There's a good comparison in GadgetaryTech's recent Modmic 2 round-up. If I was a PC-only gamer I'd consider the USB even if it is more expensive, albeit I'd probably consider a desktop mic too.
 
Q Acoustics 2020i ,DAC Topping MX3S .
I have Q acoustics speakers downstairs, love the sound of them they do awesome with vocals
Not sure if you bought one but I still have my original Modmic UNI (3.5mm) although I haven't used it much. Recently they released the new Modmic UNI 2 / USB 2 which definitely made improvements. USB is better in that you avoid noise and are not at the mercy of whatever you are plugging into. I bought the UNI as it is more versatile for plugging into a any 3.5mm input.

There's a good comparison in GadgetaryTech's recent Modmic 2 round-up. If I was a PC-only gamer I'd consider the USB even if it is more expensive, albeit I'd probably consider a desktop mic too.
Nope not yet! been busy buying everything else for a new pc!

Yea my current mic via mobo has interference i can hear through my headphones when i move my mouse. When i disconnect the mic the sound goes away it sounds like there is a ground loop somehow. I just think mobo sound is trash even with all the "gamer sound" hype - too much interference. Leaning towards USB option to eliminate that completely.

Now you got me thinking i wonder which would be better Fifine AM8 or Modmic USB 2 - just for gaming and discord nothing fancy. The search continues
 
Now you got me thinking i wonder which would be better Fifine AM8 or Modmic USB 2 - just for gaming and discord nothing fancy. The search continues

I think if you're using a microphone constantly with a PC-gaming setup and you have the space there's a strong argument for desktop/boom arm setup. Better mic quality etc.

That said it's probably easy then to start going down a XLR/audio interface/mixer rabbit hole too.
 
Just installed the Aiyima A80 with 828 OpAmps. Getting accustomed to the slight difference in sound signature but so far excellent. the internal relays sleep the circuit if no signal from PC in like aa minute with instant wakeup (DAC remains connected to PC via USB).

The Topping MX3S needed high gain and +2 bass and +3 treble to get a nice balance for my speakers, this needs just +2 bass as treble seems already where it needs to be. Loudness is definitely greater with this which is expected.

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Ancient Creative sound card and desktop speakers for office stuff and testing.

€40 Razer headphones for gaming.

The classic TBHQ “Ain’t broke, don’t fix it/I’m broke, so can’t upgrade it” combo.
 
So the A80 is excellent for sound but I've observed some quirks that scratch the wrong bits of my mind which has meant I've filed a returns:(

1: When the display is set to anything but max brightness or off then a very low high frequency whine can be heard from the regulator I assume if I turn my head a certain way. I initially thought it was the power adapter but turns out that this is not the case. It's the same sort of whine you hear from RGB keyboards or mice when lowering the brightness which puts a load on the capacitors or resistors inside causing the whine.

2: When playing content like YouTube, skipping back and forward creates a 1s gap in audio before audio continues playing, like I can see someone talking, press back arrow to rewind a few seconds but it takes another second for the speaking to be heard like as if th A80 has to buffer the audio for resuming. Slight annoyance that.

3: The heat it generates is quite insane. I m assured 49 degrees on the housing exterior so the internal temp is obviously much higher.


Did a lot of additional research last night and ended up ordering th Fosi Audio BT20A Pro, it took has swappable opamps and iv already got the higher power adapter to drive to max capability. It's a simpler pure unit that has reviewed really well so am looking forward to feeding it via the K11 R2R using line out effectively as a pre amp which means saving a USB port from the PC.

This is fine by me as the R2R can function as line level out or volume controlled like out as well so depending on which I want to use as master volume, the option is there and the R2R DAC stage is excellent quality so no concerns there.

Shame as I really like the VU meter on the A80! Though ty Fosi is much cheeper and reads like it sounds better too with its transparency and simple approach.


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So I never actually tried the stock OpAmps with the A80, had the OPA828 in there from day 1 so figured I'd give them a try this evening and man, the audio quirks mentioned above are gone, it's smooth and warm with a near analogue sound signature like what I'm used to from past amps. I guess the OPA828 I had in there either aren't a great pairing with this amp or the chips are not genuine OPA828s given they were from AliExpress - The stock OpAmps are genuine

It's also not getting as hot any more, I reckon the 828s I have are either bugged or just not well suited to this amp. Guess I am keeping the A80 after all :D

The sound with the stock OpAmps is stunning.
 
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Yup very happy with this combo now with the stock Texas Instruments OpAmps. Got the more powerful power supply coming tomorrow which will get the full capability out of the A80's 300W x2 and from what people say, opens up the sound a bit more too.
 
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Yup very happy with this combo now with the stock Texas Instruments OpAmps. Got the more powerful power supply coming tomorrow which will get the full capability out of the A80's 300W x2 and from what people say, opens up the sound a bit more too.

The 10a power supply is really not needed, plenty of power on tap with 5a, it's massive compared to the 5a and has a fan built-in, also runs hotter.
 
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Went to Richer Sounds today as booked in a speakers demo session which lasted a good hour maybe more.

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I had full intention of buying the new Fyne F500 (ex Tannoy engineers) as these are coaxial and downward firing bass ports so perfect for mid-field workstation use so i listened to them first and well they sounded very much like my KEF Q300, almost identical in fact although the bass of my Q300 hits lower. The horn-styled tweeter has a concave recessed wave guide which looks rather cool but the whole thing only comes in black and looks rather cheap given its usual £800 price tag (currently on offer for £500 only at RS).

The reason I now want to change my Q300 is because the driver cones are aluminium without the veins that later gens of Uni-Q had to mitigate the issue gen 1 had whereby after a few years dent lines would appear on the cones and after 10 years or so I've had enough of looking at those dent lines :o

At £500 they would be a sidegrade given they sound so identical, which is no bad thing but then I also eyelined last night the TRIANGLE Comete 40th Anniversary edition in a beautiful walnut wood cabinet and magnesium horn tweeter. Every review praises the sound quality and even ZEOS called it basically endgame for most people. Sadly RS did not have these in for demo and they are special order only as only 2000 were made and each one is numbered.

I also eyelined the Focal Aria Evo X N1, again a beautiful cabinet and speaker design, not coaxial but reviews praised the sound. RS had this in for demo so I listened to them whilst chatting with the RS staff. I noted my Q300s and a preference for a warm smooth sound with excellent imaging and soundstage and he pointed to a small pair of B&W 707 S3 speakers and said "forget about the size, just listen to them!". I also listened to a pair of Monitor Audio Studio 89 as they looked really neat.


Well the 707 S3 were doing some kind of absolute magic! The bass and stereo imaging and general soundstage wrapped around my whole head. I've not heard non coaxial speakers do this, the imaging felt even wider than my Q300 and the bass was fast but very detailed and impactful. These felt like they could be used midfield without any problems at all and the bungs at the back helped control the bass down a bit if near a wall. I immediately put that in the top spot as everything about them was a decent upgrade over my Q300s. The timbre was reminding me of the Sennheiser HD650s with male and female vocals feeling really "live", the placement of instruments and vocals was precise as well, everything had a directionality to it, if I moved my head around then the sonics did not change either which again is some magic as you only tended to get that with coaxial speakers. The bass felt like it hit just as low as my Q300s even though both driver and cabinets are smaller than the Q300 - I don't know how they did it but they engineered massive sound from such a small speaker.

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I then listened to the Focal and immediately knew they were a NO. Soundstage and imaging was too narrow to the point I felt fatigue within minutes. I have no idea what kind of person could ever listen to speakers that present sound like this, it would give me a headache in quick time. Great dynamics, bass and detail was superb, but it lacked any sort of stereo imaging or soundstage.

Then came the Studio 89, great low end and detail with some decent stereo imaging which I'd say was on par with the Q300s though nowhere close to the 707s, the left speaker was rattling with bass though and some tracks felt like the soundstage was a bit narrow in some areas but not others, so the imaging and presentation was not as precise as the 707 and felt a bit wavy. The faulty left speaker didn't inspire confidence either but man the design of the front was really cool, shame really.

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So yeah, I went in today expecting to come home with the Fyne F500 but ended up ordering the 707 :D - They come with a free pair of 3M Audioquest cables worth £450 so will throw them on marketplace for £250 probably to claw some back, also got a 2% discount on request as I would have got cashback via TopCashback had I ordered online which was nice.

I listened to these speakers using my playlist I've posted before:


And they had not heard many of the songs off there so pinched a few for their Tidal demo streams :p

Overall an excellent day, went way over budget but YOLO and all that. Looking forward to seeing how the Aiyima A80 drives them, plenty of power so should be more than capable and similar in presentation to the warm/smooth nature of the amp they used in the demo room today.

I'm now sat back at home listening to the same tracks on my Q300 and yeah they still sound superb but I just can't stand the dents any more as mentioned lol.

I went for the Mocha colour btw.

Also amusing that the KEF LS50 Meta have the same driver size yet were incapable of producing bass that I felt was acceptable for the price. My Q300s produce bass that is a league beyond the LS50 Meta. boggles the mind that they cost £1000+ for a downgrade in dynamics so need to spend more buying a subwoofer....

See you in another 10+ years I guess!
 
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