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Gaming 2500k cpu upgrade? 6700k or 5820k

OrionTC

OrionTC

OrionTC

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Been thinking about upgrading my [email protected] to a new cpu lately, I understand it's a big change with new ram board etc.

I do mainly game but I am interested in doing some video rendering and recording my gaming sessions (I play mainly mmorpgs so I want to record the pvp)

Is it worth it? If so which one would you go for? More cores or higher instructions per clock etc?
 
Can't say if its worth it, but I've a 6700k on the way myself. Z170 is a little cheaper now unless you need a high end motherboard. But perhaps in your case the 5820k might be a better fit, based on your usage?
 
I would try recording, editing and rendering on your current system first.

I know that Shadowplay on Nvidia cards is super efficient. Barely has any impact on gameplay. AMD has it's own version but I have never used it.
 
OrionTC said:
What was your justification if u don't mind me asking? Same situation same it looks like.
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First, I just do the odd bit of encoding. Not very regularly, and if i do i tend to leave it working away and go do something else. I'm a gamer primarily and I want to build a high end rig. I'll be adding a next gen GPU later in the year.

Secondly, there was a price difference of around £50 all told. I could have saved another 40 odd if I bought a cheaper mobo and ram (I decided to step them up a notch, my own decision)

Thirdly, I usually transition my desktop CPUs to a htpc I keep downstairs after 2 or 3 years. x99 isn't really all that htpc friendly, and mini itx x99 boards are very expensive.

Fourthly, I have two small children, so finding the time to overclock and test a 5820k could be tricky, whereas the 6700k is fast enough out of the box such that I can work on an overclock over a few months and still enjoy most of the benefit.

Finally, the only comparable x99 system from a price point of view, is the 5820k/gigabyte sli bundle here at OCUk. It's very good value, but if you want any other motherboard, you're looking at even more cost. At that point, the price difference becomes significant enough.
 
bfar said:
First, I just do the odd bit of encoding. Not very regularly, and if i do i tend to leave it working away and go do something else. I'm a gamer primarily and I want to build a high end rig. I'll be adding a next gen GPU later in the year.

Secondly, there was a price difference of around £50 all told. I could have saved another 40 odd if I bought a cheaper mobo and ram (I decided to step them up a notch, my own decision)

Thirdly, I usually transition my desktop CPUs to a htpc I keep downstairs after 2 or 3 years. x99 isn't really all that htpc friendly, and mini itx x99 boards are very expensive.

Fourthly, I have two small children, so finding the time to overclock and test a 5820k could be tricky, whereas the 6700k is fast enough out of the box such that I can work on an overclock over a few months and still enjoy most of the benefit.

Finally, the only comparable x99 system from a price point of view, is the 5820k/gigabyte sli bundle here at OCUk. It's very good value, but if you want any other motherboard, you're looking at even more cost. At that point, the price difference becomes significant enough.
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Lol over locking a 5820k isn't tricky just change multiplier and voltage set ram xmp done
 
bfar said:
Lol how do you know if that's stable, or if you're using more voltage than necessary?

Amature!
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Same goes for the 6700k Einstein. How do I know it's stable... Stress tests and compare results 1.25 @ 4.5ghz here which nearly everyone on 5820k has. THE SAME tests you would do with a 6700k.. So how would x99 take longer to clock then a 6700k explain? Aida 64, Intel extra, and whatever you use it for as 8 lack said
 
faceman123 said:
Same goes for the 6700k Einstein. How do I know it's stable... Stress tests and compare results 1.25 @ 4.5ghz here which nearly everyone on 5820k has. THE SAME tests you would do with a 6700k.. So how would x99 take longer to clock then a 6700k explain? Aida 64, Intel extra, and whatever you use it for as 8 lack said
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No s***, Sherlock. All that takes a lot of time. Which I don't get a lot of as I described. So a CPU with a high out of box IPC suits me better. I don't see how that needs to be justified.
 
bfar said:
No s***, Sherlock. All that takes a lot of time. Which I don't get a lot of as I described. So a CPU with a high out of box IPC suits me better. I don't see how that needs to be justified.
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Won't waste my breath, don't go around calling people AMATEURS, when making such claims, Rofl a lot of time? 8 pack made a guide for idiots on how to overclock within 5 minutes. So To overclock and test a 5820k Takes long? Good night AMATURE!
 
Just moved up from a 2500k to a 5830k and you can notice the increase plus I'll keep this for another 4 years so you want more cores end of the day if your keeping it for a while near the same gaming proformance as the 6700k right now and future dx12,source 2 and more multi core supported games will matter in the coming years will be better with 6 cores.
 
faceman123 said:
Won't waste my breath, don't go around calling people AMATEURS, when making such claims, Rofl a lot of time? 8 pack made a guide for idiots on how to overclock within 5 minutes. So To overclock and test a 5820k Takes long? Good night AMATURE!
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Fair enough!

8packs guide is excellent, but its just a starting point, a quick and dirty overclock. No two chips are the same, so testing for stability is a big element. That can take hours. Moreover, lots of folks like to use as little voltage as they can get away with, so as to prolong the life of their equipment and save on electricity bills. Again, that's hours of testing. Finally, some of us like to fine tune voltage settings so that the high voltages required for overclocks are only applied when the CPU goes into turbo mode. Again, that takes a little bit of research.
 
has anyone considered the effect of directx12 on future performance?

i.e. more cores = better?

i keep thinking investing in a 5820k might be a good idea with its 6 cores vs the 4 cores from a 6700k.
 
leon4112 said:
Just moved up from a 2500k to a 5830k and you can notice the increase plus I'll keep this for another 4 years so you want more cores end of the day if your keeping it for a while near the same gaming proformance as the 6700k right now and future dx12,source 2 and more multi core supported games will matter in the coming years will be better with 6 cores.
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i was just reading up on DX12 and the potential of cores. making me think about the 5820k more and more. i think the 5830k is a bit out of my price range tho
 
OrionTC said:
Been thinking about upgrading my [email protected] to a new cpu lately, I understand it's a big change with new ram board etc.

I do mainly game but I am interested in doing some video rendering and recording my gaming sessions (I play mainly mmorpgs so I want to record the pvp)

Is it worth it? If so which one would you go for? More cores or higher instructions per clock etc?
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Hi OrionTC to be fair 2500k @4.4 is more than up to the job for playing games and video encoding/Decoding.

one thing i will say is have u tried to undervolt ur cpu at that clock speed or back off by 100Mhz to see if performance difference, plus what memory are u using and at what speed (if overclocked), sometimes having things clocked out isnt always the fastest setup.
on 6600k/6700k i my view is,
unless ur system is faulty or have died skylake is a waste of money at this point, because of the proformance gains which is like 15/20% max clock to clock are far outwieghted by the price of ddr4 mem,cpu and a good z170 board.
also quite a few cpus have having temp problems like haswell/devils canyon and the only way pass this is a delid and replacement of the TIM to see cpu true proformance which again is a backward step for intel but thats a story for somewhere else and properly covered already.
 
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im at work atm cant remember exactly what the type and speed of the ram is. pretty sure i didnt overclock it tho (the ram that is)

will probably be around £550 for a cpu/cooler/board/ram. starts to add up for sure T_T
 
OrionTC said:
im at work atm cant remember exactly what the type and speed of the ram is. pretty sure i didnt overclock it tho (the ram that is)

will probably be around £550 for a cpu/cooler/board/ram. starts to add up for sure T_T
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then what i would say have a play first with ur 2500k and see where it can be improved from where it is atm :)
 
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Personally I would say go for the skylake i5 and clock it up, or one of the pre-clocked i5 bundles from OCUK. From the sounds of it, you don't spend a massive amount of time on your PC, and you're not spending every hour of your working day encoding/renderings/streaming video, so the extra performance is really just overkill from what I can tell. Not to mention that the pre OC'd bundles will save you the time and hassle of doing it your self, as they are tested and guaranteed.

I'd Get the i5, and use the money saved from the i7 to get an m.2 drive for main system drive. Use that to record via shadowplay/whatever and dump your encodes onto larger ssd/mech hdd.

As good as dx12 sounds on paper for MOAR COARS, it's still all going to boil down to developer integration of features, and they are only going to want to build for the lowest common denominator; which at that point on PC I would hazard a guess would be 4 cores/threads.
 
OrionTC said:
Been thinking about upgrading my [email protected] to a new cpu lately, I understand it's a big change with new ram board etc.

I do mainly game but I am interested in doing some video rendering and recording my gaming sessions (I play mainly mmorpgs so I want to record the pvp)

Is it worth it? If so which one would you go for? More cores or higher instructions per clock etc?
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5820K all day long :)
 
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