Gaming Devolved?

This is not a dig at you Greg,but surely it is because of what this Nvidia VP said a while back:

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible

Plus,there was a thread on the same subject on these forums IIRC.

Edit!!

Here it is:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18497277&highlight=ps4

Nvidia attacks PS4 hardware, calls it "low-end"



Its part of the PR war between AMD and Nvidia,which is mostly for stockholders.

Say no more ;)
 
My point is being an Nvidia owner, I look at those threads and read it. If I deem it as baiting, I wouldn't bother to reply but a select few are getting wound up over nothing. It isn't damning AMD at all and I don't see why all the pitch forks are out and even one person screaming for a suspension.

Some people need to man up.

The OP didn't bother to read the link they themselves posted,which is the funny part.

Do they even understand,that a large percentage of PC game sales,are digital copies??

This has nothing to do with the AMD Gaming Evolved programme at all,so why even mention in the same sentence??

Infact,one meaning of the word devolved is:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolved

"grow worse"

I don't see the link. Maybe if full sales figures with breakdowns for each platform are released,maybe we could then see if the titles did poorly on the PC platform.

Until,its pure fantasy and speculation on the part of the OP,regarding a link.

Its like saying low PS3 sales for any of the games is indicative of the TWIMTBP being unsuccessful,which TBH would be a load of Moose droppings.
 
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Well that was intersting... :rolleyes:

On topic though, why would the companies release statements saying they were disapointed with the sales if they don't include the majority of the PC sales. Its not like they said "these are console only figures"
 
My point is being an Nvidia owner, I look at those threads and read it. If I deem it as baiting, I wouldn't bother to reply but a select few are getting wound up over nothing. It isn't damning AMD at all and I don't see why all the pitch forks are out and even one person screaming for a suspension.

Some people need to man up.

The OP didn't bother to read the link they themselves posted,which is the funny part.

Do they even understand,that a large percentage of PC game sales,are digital copies??

This has nothing to do with the AMD Gaming Evolved programme at all,so why even mention in the same sentence??

Infact,one meaning of the word devolved is:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolved

"grow worse"

I don't see the link. Maybe if full sales figures with breakdowns for each platform are released,maybe we could then see if the titles did poorly on the PC platform.

Until,its pure fantasy and speculation on the part of the OP,regarding a link.

Its like saying low PS3 sales for any of the games is indicative of the TWIMTBP being unsuccessful,which TBH would be a load of Moose droppings.

It was a troll thread and pretty much everyone picked up on it. Only the usual suspects didn't but that's hardly surprising.

Spot on Cat as always. :)
 
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It was a troll thread and pretty much everyone picked up on it. Only the usual suspects didn't but that's hardly surprising.

And that isn't trolling?

Oh dear Matthew.... :D

The chip on your shoulder for whatever reason is ruining your normally decent humour.
 
Not surprised tbh. Some games will sell better then others but there must be something that didn't click with these as they have a fairly good following but its probably the changes they to make it appeal to the casual audience that has lead them not to hit the expected margin, at least with hitman.

I enjoyed sleeping dogs, but i wish it was longer, looks like there is no chance of a sequel.
 
Well that was intersting... :rolleyes:

On topic though, why would the companies release statements saying they were disapointed with the sales if they don't include the majority of the PC sales. Its not like they said "these are console only figures"

I think the point that people are missing is that each of these games, as a whole, lost money, and the publisher lost money... regardless of where the lack of sales are, publishers losing money means less games getting made, and that is never a good thing

plus, giving away free or low value copies of games isn't exactly a recipe for profit, which again is potentially bad news for every gamer if big publishers stop doing tie ins like this

like any good journalist (sic), I used a headline that I knew would drag the punters in...
 
I think the point that people are missing is that each of these games, as a whole, lost money, and the publisher lost money... regardless of where the lack of sales are, publishers losing money means less games getting made, and that is never a good thing

plus, giving away free or low value copies of games isn't exactly a recipe for profit, which again is potentially bad news for every gamer if big publishers stop doing tie ins like this

like any good journalist (sic), I used a headline that I knew would drag the punters in...

That's not what the article said though, just admit it was a troll thread and move along.
 
Proper details if they want to be found instead of sensationalist thread titles:

Today's numbers, published in Square Enix's latest financial report, do not count digital sales.

This was due to the company's digital entertainment division seeing "substantially" slower results in major console games than it had predicted. Its arcade machine business was also sluggish.

^

That discounts the PC version then.

Haters gonna hate at he end of the day.
 
Proper details if they want to be found instead of sensationalist thread titles:





^

That discounts the PC version then.

Haters gonna hate at he end of the day.

He himself didn't read the article he posted. Fail,and then when this is pointed out by loads of people,he goes LA!LA!LA!LA!LA!LA!
 
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of course I read the article, I read several on the same subject, they all state the individual games themselves lost money, e.g. failed to recoup their development costs... you can't "lose" money on consols but "make" money on PC's, the games either made back their dev costs or they didn't

saying "ah but the article is about consoles" is blinkered nonsense
 
Proper details if they want to be found instead of sensationalist thread titles:





^

That discounts the PC version then.

Haters gonna hate at he end of the day.

of course I read the article, I read several on the same subject, they all state the individual games themselves lost money, e.g. failed to recoup their development costs... you can't "lose" money on consols but "make" money on PC's, the games either made back their dev costs or they didn't

saying "ah but the article is about consoles" is blinkered nonsense

From the article you linked to:

Square Enix said:
Slow sales of its console games in the West are to blame, Square Enix said in a statement to investors today.

The business' North American sales momentum was singled out as being particularly "ineffective". The continent recorded just two thirds of Europe's sales.

Today's numbers, published in Square Enix's latest financial report, do not count digital sales.

So,the company states low CONSOLE sales. Digital sales include small concerns like Steam,GMG,etc. I bet you NEVER have heard or used them,right??

Instead you are in some fantasy land thinking it is something to do with AMD Gaming Evolved.

It seems you cannot read,and are stubborn too,which is a great combination.

So,I will leave you in your little fantasy land so you can please yourself.
 
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Whether the articles exclude the PC figures is fairly besides the point in many senses - even if they'd been fantastic PC sellers, they won't double PS3 and 360 figures combined to reach those claimed targets.

Even more so titles like Sleeping Dogs which was invariably devalued by being bundled so heavily. People are far less likely to drop £30 on a title they see their peers getting for free.
 
Whether the articles exclude the PC figures is fairly besides the point in many senses - even if they'd been fantastic PC sellers, they won't double PS3 and 360 figures combined to reach those claimed targets.

Even more so titles like Sleeping Dogs which was invariably devalued by being bundled so heavily. People are far less likely to drop £30 on a title they see their peers getting for free.

Did you even read the article? So are you honestly telling me that Steam hardly contributes to games sales??

Is this more revisionist history on a forum which is mostly about PCs?

What the heck has consoles sales got to do with the AMD Gaming Evolved program for PCs??


Square Enix said:
Slow sales of its console games in the West are to blame, Square Enix said in a statement to investors today.

The business' North American sales momentum was singled out as being particularly "ineffective". The continent recorded just two thirds of Europe's sales.

Today's numbers, published in Square Enix's latest financial report, do not count digital sales.
 
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I'm telling you I don't think PC sales, digital or otherwise contribute enough to cover the deficit in sales being reported. I don't think the opinion that console games tend to outsell their PC counterparts is 'revisionist history'.

Have any press releases or news stories come out recently regarding BL2 being declared a failure by it's own publishers? If not, that probably has something to do with it.

edit - oh wow, big red text, excellent debating technique

The point you seem to be missing, is that if these games were considered failures on console platforms, it's unlikely the PC counterparts were a rip roaring success story and in fact were likely just as poorly performing. Something that's not good for any of us, however big and red you want to post about CONSOLES ONLY
 
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