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GeForce GTX 770 Specifications Leaked, Could Surprise with Pricing

Not a surprise really. It was rumoured to be 400 USD ages ago . Even gibbo hinted it might be at current hrs 680 pricing. It's only the pesimistic lot on here that are convinced it will be £400-£450..

I will prob get one if one can be had for near £300
 
To say Nvidia don't set the UK price is rubbish as a blanket statement.

They very clearly do as if they sell a GPU for $300 then it means the UK price will be around £250 inc vat. If they sell a GPU for around $600 then the UK price will be £500.


The single biggest influence on what the UK price will be is Nvidia's GPU price to AIBs, nothing else comes remotely close to dictating the end UK price than that.
I don't see why you are still analysising this from logic's standpoint, when the reality of the GTX780 across all major retailers in the UK priced at least a good £25-£30 higher than US price (without tax) converted to UK price plus UK's 20% VAT.

Bottomline is the products' shelf price is always higher over here at launch, and quite frankly I honestly can not be bother to even try to decide pointing finger at the retailers or Nvidia, as knowing who's responsible won't affect the pricing itself at all, so why bother trying to work it out?
 
Not a surprise really. It was rumoured to be 400 USD ages ago . Even gibbo hinted it might be at current hrs 680 pricing.

Current 680 pricing is $470


It's only the pesimistic lot on here that are convinced it will be £400-£450..

Indeed, releasing a factory overclocked 680 for more than 3rd part OC model 680's would be beyond full retard, pretty much any 680 can do 770 clocks.
 
To say Nvidia don't set the UK price is rubbish as a blanket statement.

They very clearly do as if they sell a GPU for $300 then it means the UK price will be around £250 inc vat. If they sell a GPU for around $600 then the UK price will be £500.


The single biggest influence on what the UK price will be is Nvidia's GPU price to AIBs, nothing else comes remotely close to dictating the end UK price than that.

as the root manufacturer, of course they can influence pricing by raising or lowering the cost of one of the raw materials, however to say they SET the price is a leap of logic

at the end of the day, consumers set the pricing by paying or not paying the price being asked of them

nvidia don't charge $300 or $500 for a GPU, by the time you take out margins and costs for retailer, distro and AIB you end up at a tiny fraction of the selling price, like 20% at the most, so if Nvidia drop their price by 10%, that reflects a 2% price drop in the final product, it is very unlikely that everyone in the chain will drop their price linearly by 10%

(if you take out non-GPU revenue sterams and divide Nvidia's total revenue by the number of GPU's they sell per year you end up at an average of $80 per GPU sold, and I've not even taken out things like Tesla etc. that would be dragging this average up by quite a bit)
 
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Just checked the supposed score of the MSI Lightning 770 against other 680's (2 Lightnings) in the Fire Strike bench.

http://cdn3.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GTX-770-3DMark-OC.png

770 Lightning - 8873
680 Lightning - 9085

Clocks showing for the 770 Lightning were 12xx but boosting to 1300Mhz and my clocks for the 680 Lightning were around 1300Mhz (I didn't use Art Money as I was selling them).

If those specs are true, I would be very disappointed.
 
Nvidia are clearly the single biggest influence on the end UK price by a massive degree, orders of magnitude more so than distributors, end retailer, exchange rates etc.

It is Nvidia that define the end UK price more than any other component of the chain, by an order of magnitude.

It is in the main down to Nvidia that the UK price of the 780 at launch was £550 - £600 for example, all of the other components in the chain had very little impact on that end price compared to Nvidia.
 
Nvidia are clearly the single biggest influence on the end UK price by a massive degree, orders of magnitude more so than distributors, end retailer, exchange rates etc.

It is Nvidia that define the end UK price more than any other component of the chain, by an order of magnitude.

It is in the main down to Nvidia that the UK price of the 780 at launch was £550 - £600 for example, all of the other components in the chain had very little impact on that end price compared to Nvidia.

OcUK buy their stock in dollars, it isn't bought in pounds.
 
Nvidia are clearly the single biggest influence on the end UK price by a massive degree, orders of magnitude more so than distributors, end retailer, exchange rates etc.

It is Nvidia that define the end UK price more than any other component of the chain, by an order of magnitude.

It is in the main down to Nvidia that the UK price of the 780 at launch was £550 - £600 for example, all of the other components in the chain had very little impact on that end price compared to Nvidia.

based on no real information

just doing a basic division of total revenue divided by total sales shows this assumption to be a complete fallacy, even without knowledge from having worked in the industry
 
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So what other component in the chain of selling a GTX 780 is bigger than Nvidia's revenue share of that product?

no one component has the lions share, that is the entire point, everyone in the chain will be wanting to make a good margin, a bare minimum of 20% and more like 30 or even 40% margin on premium components

if nvidia charge $150 for the GPU, the AIB adds on say $50 of costs and then a 30% margin = $285, a distro wants 30% (lets ignore shipping costs as per container you are probably only talking £1-2 per item) = $408 and the retailer wants 30% too which comes to $583

not far short are we?

if you manage to cut out the distributor then you are buying in less bulk so the AIB's margin will be higher and so will the retailers, if you are buying less than container quantities then your cost of shipping goes up by quite a large factor as well, and given that you probably want your goods in place quicker than 1-2months on the sea then you are talking air freight which will be even more expensive again

the distributor I used to work for would never go below 25% margin because it would cost roughly 20% of it's turnover to service the business, so anything less than 20% was a "loss" in real terms, ideally you wanted to be making 30-40% on small volume business and 25% reserved for frequent pallet quantity business

if you are making 30% margin, a 10% discount on price comes straight off your bottom line, so it's a 30% reduction in profit

if anything I would say the AIB's would want a higher than 30% margin as well, I've seen anything up to 80% manufacturer margin (not on GPU's I hasten to add) when I've managed to get an insight in to their costs (it is amazing how often a manufacturer will send out distributor pricing and forget to delete their internal cost structure tabs from a spreadsheet for example)
 
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no one component has the lions share, that is the entire point, everyone in the chain will be wanting to make a good margin

I'm not talking profit, whilst one part of the chain might make more profit than another it doesnt mean they are responsible for more of the total cost of the product.

I'd be amazed if Nvidia weren't the lions share of the total cost of the product in the UK.
 
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