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Heads up to anyone planning on getting one: get yourself £650~£750 at the ready.
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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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Been delayed, next year now.
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Boom is that a photo of you together with Jensen? Cause I got a strong feeling that you will be getting one
What "clearly stated" Turing moment are you referring to in the teaser exactly... the only thing that I saw, and it's tenous at best, is the AlanaT name on the Discord chat shot at 0:43.
Based on the other little teasers in that trailer, I am thinking RTX 2080 now is the most likely name, but it's going to have to be a beast of a card to justify that moniker.
I'd say it was the opposite. We now have a definite date for something gaming from Nvidia, so any opportunity to move on 2nd hand cards at silly money has now passed. I don't care what's coming next week, there's no way I'm paying more than £200 for a 2nd hand 1070.
AFAIK we have no information on pricing yet so selling a 1080 for £350 for example, and then hoping that the 2070 is faster and not more than £350 is a bit of a gamble.
You'd only be nervous if it was a recent purchase and hadn't had a lot of use out of it I imagine. Everyone else has gotten a lot of use from the cards. I've sold and upgraded for a number of releases now on the MM and haven't noticed a huge difference from selling before or after a release. If a 2080 releases at £650+ and has a performance increase over a 1080ti the ti will still have a fair sell on price.
What I have noticed is that approaching a new release people will try to dictate the price of second hand cards by proclaiming what the second hand price should be, often under what is fair. People trying to get a bargain I guess but it's something to be aware of when selling on the MM.
The MM often favours buyers to be fair though... as a seller you'd probably get more on the bay, but I often find myself selling on the MM because I find it a far easier process, and the trust system works well. That said, I think when it comes to GPUs some people get carried away... I remember when the 1080 came out people were expecting 980Ti's to be going for under £200 second hand, which was just ridiculous. I've seen similar talk this time around about the 1080Ti, with some expecting them to be practically given away when the 2080 drops. The problem is it can take just one person to get rid of a card super cheap and suddenly that sets a precedent which every other buyer then puts on new sellers to adhere to.
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Aye the second hand 980ti prices people were suggesting at the time were nonsense. The MM is generally a lot better than the bay but leading up to a new release you do get some disingenuousness going on.
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Didn't prices later come down a lot though? There were enough still willing to pay decent money for them initially.
You'll always get those who own something valuing it more than someone who doesn't. I tend to apply the same logic I'd apply to buying other second hand goods and probably value GPU's second hand lower than most do.
If memory serves me correctly we had 980 Ti owners trying to sell for similar prices as the brand new 1070 was going to be released at. I also remember at the end of the 780 Ti days trying to pick a second one up for Sli and the owner (on the bay) trying to justify why it was worth more than newly released 970 was at the time. It was mostly around the "Ti" being special but when it comes to GPU's it comes down to simply performance and per watt too.
Will be interesting this time around as there are lots of mining cards around - will the used market have a massively higher supply this time? At the end of the day it will come down to supply and demand.
Yeah they weren't actually going for stupidly low money, it's just the talk of some people at the time was absurd... before the 1080 dropped some were trying to talk down the 980Ti value well below what any sensible person would ever sell for.
I don't know that there are that many mining cards left... I think the bottom fell out of that a while ago so many have been sold on now. No doubt still a few, but I was seeing loads on the bay and elsewhere a while ago. There is no way to really know if what you're buying has been ragged though, although ultimately a bit of light mining won't have done any harm as it almost certainly won't have been run at max power... that would defeat the purpose and have been too costly in electric.
The biggest problem with the 1080ti's is the price spiked massively due to a shortage. People who paid through the nose for them will want to try and get a reasonable return, whilst buyers will want to pay below the original 1080ti launch price as that is what the card was valued at before the mining nonsense started.
I still see people asking in excess of £200 for 970's. its ridiculous.
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I cashed in £400 for aorus card- did have waterblock though which was provided free which helped
was told to sell it before the such above was released
nvidia stopped producing the chip around beginning of Q2 - i think maybe sooner - good time frame to get rid of stock for resellers but mining kind of threw everything off a little
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guessing now with the increase of 1440p ultra wide 100hz+ monitors, 4k 60hz + monitors and fact peoples warranties might be coming to an end on some cards as well as a lot of 980ti owners holding on for a generation - **80 could sell out fast like pascal and rising in pricing- would make 1080ti more appealing for 2nd hand owners and could keep prices of pascal cards high ...