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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

Panos said:
True we can have 1 ray per pixel at 4K 60fps even Vega 64 and GTX1080Ti can do it (that is 4.88Gigarays), but not 200 rays per pixel because that would require 200Gigarays before noise fixing, and a total 2000Gigarays for full image. Atm we need 200 RTX2080Tis to achieve that perf.
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That is using a completely different metric, and not comparable, to the Gigarays nVidia was talking about - where the 1080ti manages slightly over 1.2GR/s - it isn't even a great metric anyhow as Gigarays doesn't really tell you the performance outside of a specific benchmark.

I'd honestly suggest people keep from being too negative/positive about this until we actually see some titles that properly implement hybrid RT - some of the comments before we've even seen real examples are getting a bit silly.
 
B1gbeard said:
But the world doesn’t work like that, in any sector. I wouldn’t say to someone don’t pre-order on the one in a billion chance it might make it a bit cheaper for me. What would the price have come down to anyway with the £ as it is. A better pound and they would have been under a grand.
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It only happens to products that have a following of people that want to ***** large amounts of money on.
 
jwilliamson47 said:
I personally love the design, very sleek.
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The design is nice, i do wonder if they went with a dual axial fan out of necessity or are they trying to push some of their aib partners out of the market? Its not just the cooler the card is also overclocked to an extent. Which is a first as far as i'm aware. Does seem like they went dual axial to keep clock speeds up so their "reference" card could match some of the aib card designs.
 
Rroff said:
Yeah someone had to take them to task and tell them to get their act together. I don't really follow tech sites other than Gamer's Nexus lately as they generally have good insight but Toms was often a good resource back in the day.
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It was good when it was actually run by Tom, it has gradually gone down hill as it changed hands and the quality of the freelance work they publish is flat awful
 
Gerard said:
The design is nice, i do wonder if they went with a dual axial fan out of necessity or are they trying to push some of their aib partners out of the market? Its not just the cooler the card is also overclocked to an extent. Which is a first as far as i'm aware. Does seem like they went dual axial to keep clock speeds up so their "reference" card could match some of the aib card designs.
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Yeah I like the design for the dual fan as well - I suspect it is necessity with a core that size though it shouldn't be too bad for "normal" operation as the Titan V generally hangs in with the 16nm cards despite a massively bigger core. But Jensen was up on stage banging on about max overclockability and with a core that size you are definitely going to see the heat and power ramp up with overclocking.

Will be interesting after the whole deal with AMD and overclockers dream if the Turing cards don't overclock worth a **** given all his comments about overclocking on stage.
 
father-ted said:
£650 and I will buy one.
May hold off a while to see some actual benchmarks on the 2080 (non-ti) - how will that compare against the 1080 ti?
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I thought that, but I can't really justify it. For the amount I game and the fact I'm on a 980ti on a asus 1440 ips g-sync that I have no intentions of replacing with 4k I just really want something to give me a boost and let me harvest some old parts to build a PC for the lounge.

The 2080 ray tracing will be so inadequte vs the Ti itll be pointless...its just giving you a taste nothing substantial, of the future.

£650 is my limit...I'll buy when the 1080ti or better is available at that price point.
 
Rroff said:
Will be interesting after the whole deal with AMD and overclockers dream if the Turing cards don't overclock worth a **** given all his comments about overclocking on stage.
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Would be weird if they didn't given their stock and boost clocks on past cards generally are a few hundred mhz shy of where the core could get to with a better cooler. But they never really promoted it much back then, so would be odd if the time they did promote it the core didn't shift much at all. :p
 
Gerard said:
Would be weird if they didn't given their stock and boost clocks on past cards generally are a few hundred mhz shy of where the core could get to with a better cooler. But they never really promoted it much back then, so would be odd if the time they did promote it the core didn't shift much at all. :p
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He was raving on stage about how at max overclock the cooling on Turing was 5x quieter than a 1080ti - didn't specify if that was a 1080ti at 100% fan or normal fan speeds. I wonder if anyone will test that.
 
Rroff said:
He was raving on stage about how at max overclock the cooling on Turing was 5x quieter than a 1080ti - didn't specify if that was a 1080ti at 100% fan or normal fan speeds. I wonder if anyone will test that.
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Surprised they didn't showcase that at their presentation, then again he was too busy circle jerking over ray tracing for that to matter.
 
Rroff said:
He was raving on stage about how at max overclock the cooling on Turing was 5x quieter than a 1080ti - didn't specify if that was a 1080ti at 100% fan or normal fan speeds. I wonder if anyone will test that.
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This is what i want to know. How much heat is produced under load and how quiet is it under load?
Does the change from blower to open air fans indicate an increased heat output?
Is there a change in heat and noise with RTX off and RTX on?
 
Off yer bloody ****, if you buy one of those Nvidia BFG jobbies, costing 5k+, to run it at 1080p with yer £1200 RTX, as 1080p will look absolute gash at 65 inches :D
 
Can't believe Tom's Hardware unbelievable shilling for the cards with that article by their editor. 'Just buy one' and presumably don't even bother with their review. And that's what they are, a review site. You couldn't make it up. They should be permanently blacklisted after that.

LoadsaMoney said:
Off yer bloody ****, if you buy one of those Nvidia BFG jobbies, costing 5k+, to run it at 1080p with yer £1200 RTX, as 1080p will look absolute gash at 65 inches :D
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Yeah this is the problem they find themselves in. Lot of people have large 4K TVs or smaller 4K monitors. 1080p on these screens will look shockingly bad.
 
melmac said:
Agreed they have done it all wrong. Yes, Ray Tracing is a big deal and I think most people on tech forums would agree with that but as you say, it's just not ready. Nvidia should have taken a hit on this. Imagine how different the reaction would have been if the 2080ti had come in at max £949 and the others cards priced accordingly, pushing the prices of the Pascal cards down as well. I don't think for a second that Nvidia would have made a loss at those prices, they just might not have made as much profit. Think of the Kudos they would have got. More people would have bought the cards, more cards with Ray TRacing, more developers working on it, more games been released. 7nm comes around, Ray Tracing isn't just a nice to have, it's suddenly a must
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lnoton said:
I thought that, but I can't really justify it. For the amount I game and the fact I'm on a 980ti on a asus 1440 ips g-sync that I have no intentions of replacing with 4k I just really want something to give me a boost and let me harvest some old parts to build a PC for the lounge.

The 2080 ray tracing will be so inadequte vs the Ti itll be pointless...its just giving you a taste nothing substantial, of the future.

£650 is my limit...I'll buy when the 1080ti or better is available at that price point.
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There're a couple available for that price if you search the rainforests.
 
Boot_Loop said:
Can't believe Tom's Hardware unbelievable shilling for the cards with that article by their editor. 'Just buy one' and presumably don't even bother with their review. And that's what they are, a review site. You couldn't make it up. They should be permanently blacklisted after that.
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The article was by one person (albeit the editor). If he gets fired and someone really good takes the position should it be blacklisted forever?
 
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