Poll: General election voting intentions poll

[robgmun]

Whats this? A Labour activist who was BNP and helped a Labour MP? Never you say! Well......

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ukip-racism-in-heywood-by-election-heres-why/

http://nopenothope.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/heywood-middleton-labour-candidate-and.html

Maxfield had a long history with the BNP. He was appointed local organiser by no less a person than then BNP leader Nick Griffin back in 2004 when he was described by his predecessor as being one of the ‘drug dealers and football hooligans’ who made up the local branch of the BNP.

He didn’t defect straight to Labour though – first he joined the white supremacist ‘England First Party’. Of course, had he been a member of UKIP, we’d have read about all this on the front page of the Mirror and the Guardian, and Hope not Hate and [Unite Against Fascism] would have been picketing his house.

But, since he eventually joined Labour, that’s alright then. As a fellow Labour councillor said when he was made cabinet member for culture, “To be fair to Trevor, he’s quite a good bloke. I think his BNP stuff is in the past”. Not that far in the past, as he is pictured at a ‘Heritage & Destiny’ meeting in Bradford in 2006 with various other luminaries of the far right, including Eddy Morrison and Dave Smith.

[It is] a strange world indeed where Maxfield is not just accepted but promoted within the Labour Party despite his far right links, while he would not even qualify for membership of UKIP because of his past associations.

 

[robgmun]

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What bull crap, you can't even counter properly

And another ex-BNP who now Labour

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jun/14/localgovernment.politics

Oh baby i can do this all day, trashing you warped view that UKIP has more bad people. In fact i can drag up more stories about other parties then there ever has been of UKIP

Anti-UKIP's have fallen hook line and sicker because the media doesn't report on stories from other parties, quite plainly DP and other are completely and utterly wrong locked in there sphere of ignorance.

 

[elmarko]

Christ almighty you're such a scandalous apologist, coupled with the fact you don't even live in this country it's a wonder anyone takes you seriously!

So you're saying that 20 people who claim that were raped as children by a Libdem MP are just 'anecdotes'?? That's a bit of a sick and twisted point of view

So there you go people, Pedophilia is a-ok by DP and racism is worst

You clearly don't understand what anecdotal means in this context.

Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a generalized claim; it is, however, perfectly acceptable for claims regarding a particular instance. Providing individual examples as evidence that a collective (a generalised claim that you made) is not valid.

Also, this comment you made in particular.

So there you go people, Pedophilia is a-ok by DP and racism is worst

Is one of the foolish things I've read on this forum for some time.

 

[D.P.]

No one from UKIP has been Jailed over racism yet

But the LABOUR party has!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/20/man-jailed-antisemitic-tweet-labour-mp

Actually, that is some random person who made a racist remark to a Labour MP, not the other way round!

 

[robgmun]

You clearly don't understand what accidental means in this context.

Read his post properly, he said Anecdotal not accidental to claims made to the police

 

[robgmun]

Actually, that is some random person who made a racist remark to a Labour MP, not the other way round!

Oooo looking a little shaky now arn't we??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/102...om-ex-BNP-member-for-his-bid-to-be-an-MP.html

 

[Danthus]

Oooo looking a little shaky now arn't we??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/102...om-ex-BNP-member-for-his-bid-to-be-an-MP.html

This would be the same Will Straw.

http://order-order.com/2015/03/03/will-straws-disgust-at-mps-suddenly-lacking/

 

[robgmun]

Labour are NAZI's

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/17/nazi-margaret-burke-milton-keynes-_n_1523990.html


As you can see DP, there are just as many, if not more racists in the Labour party. And clearly they and the Libdems are a party for pedophiles

 

[D.P.]

Christ almighty you're such a scandalous apologist,

Where have I apologized for any scandal?

coupled with the fact you don't even live in this country it's a wonder anyone takes you seriously!

Where I live is irreverent.

So you're saying that 20 people who claim that were raped as children by a Libdem MP are just 'anecdotes'?? That's a bit of a sick and twisted point of view

Where did I say that? The evidence you post anecdotal in that you have picked up 2 news stories from last year and are trying to paint a picture that the main parties have as many nasty people as UKIP. No one has denied that there aren't nasty people in all parties. The only poitn of contention is LIP have far more than any other party despite beign far smaller than the main 2.

So there you go people, Pedophilia is a-ok by DP and racism is worst

Amazing deductive skills. Are all UKIP supporters as neurologically challenged as you?

 

[D.P.]

Labour are NAZI's

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/17/nazi-margaret-burke-milton-keynes-_n_1523990.html


As you can see DP, there are just as many, if not more racists in the Labour party. And clearly they and the Libdems are a party for pedophiles

You sitll don't understand it do you, and I doubt you ever will because your mind is so twisted.

 

[The Dread Pirate]

Well Here's another Target for UKIP:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-30687171

It appears Fairy and Elven Migration into somerset has reached a record high!

 

[elmarko]

Read his post properly, he said Anecdotal not accidental to claims made to the police

It was an auto-correct, anecdotal was what I meant.

The point still stands, you can't pick two occasions & extrapolate them across an entire party. You can on the other hand look at the statistics regarding social attitudes by voting preference.

 

[D.P.]

A little English lesson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

The expression anecdotal evidence refers to evidence from anecdotes. Because of the small sample, there is a larger chance that it may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.[1][2] Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a generalized claim; it is, however, perfectly acceptable for claims regarding a particular instance. Anecdotal evidence is no more than a type description (i.e., short narrative), and is often confused in discussions with its weight, or other considerations, as to the purpose(s) for which it is used. This is true regardless of the veracity of individual claims

 

[robgmun]

Where have I apologized for any scandal?

This was your answer when i posted the story about Ctril Smith "Individual anecdotes don't make data" How else can it be taken

Where I live is irreverent.

It's funny that the most pro-immigration posters in this forum are the ones that don't even live in this country. So you're opinion on the matter is greatly diminished. Never mind the fact that UKIP immigration policy is less racist then the 3 main parties

Where did I say that? The evidence you post anecdotal in that you have picked up 2 news stories from last year and are trying to paint a picture that the main parties have as many nasty people as UKIP. No one has denied that there aren't nasty people in all parties. The only poitn of contention is LIP have far more than any other party despite beign far smaller than the main 2.

Hum, it's a level playing field mate, if it's good for UKIP then it's good for the rest. Besides some of the racist comments dragged up about UKIP are years old

Amazing deductive skills. Are all UKIP supporters as neurologically challenged as you?

Least i'm not a pedo apologist

 

[robgmun]

You sitll don't understand it do you, and I doubt you ever will because your mind is so twisted.

So it's fine for a Nazi to be a Labour Councillor but when it's UKIP everyone just loses there minds!!!

Get out DP, you're ridiculous


LibDem is racist too!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...tary-candidate-resigns-over-racist-email.html

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/lib-dem-anti-islam-candidate/

And if i started on the Tory party i'd be here until mid-night!

 

[thep02]

Or Labour as Communists, which would be more accurate then UKIP as racists

Pmsl.

 

[Freefaller]

That's just pathetic

It's also ironic that UKIP immigration policy is actually less racist then the 3 main parties


Freefaller - Put is back you bitter little man

Excuse me? What the hell are you on about?

1) You accuse me with no evidence.
2) You insult me.

Get away from your keyboard little boy.

 

[D.P.]

This was your answer when i posted the story about Ctril Smith "Individual anecdotes don't make data" Who else can it be taken

Perhaps it simply means that posting 2 anecdotal examples does not constitute data ? That is why I said that, there is no hidden meaning there. Posting individual news clips in here means nothing to the point being discussed.

It's funny that the most pro-immigration posters in this forum are the ones that don't even live in this country. So you're opinion on the matter is greatly diminished. Never mind the fact that UKIP immigration policy is less racist then the 3 main parties

Its funny how the most bigoted posters on this forum haven't lived abroad or seen the value in doing so. So their opinions are greatly diminished.
None of the parties immigration policies are racist.

Hum, it's a level playing field mate, if it's good for UKIP then it's good for the rest. Besides some of the racist comments dragged up about UKIP are years old

Least i'm not a pedo apologist

Ignorant childish nonsense.

 

[dr_volki]

so I thought i'd have a read through this thread on my coffee break.

save to say won't be reading it anymore.

 

[Caged]

Ah boo. Why did you ban him? It was fun watching someone purely fuelled by hatred, with absolutely zero self awareness argue his way into a corner in increasingly violent incidents.