Poll: General election voting intentions poll

Voting intentions in the General Election?

  • Alliance Party of Northern Ireland

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 254 41.6%
  • Democratic Unionist Party

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 40 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 83 13.6%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 31 5.1%
  • Not voting/will spoil ballot

    Votes: 38 6.2%
  • Other party (not named)

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Respect Party

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 25 4.1%
  • Social Democratic and Labour Party

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 129 21.1%

  • Total voters
    611
  • Poll closed .
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His point (I think) was about reducing income inequality - you can either do that after tax, by making sure high income people pay more tax so that people on low incomes keep a greater proportion of their income, or you can do it before tax and make sure there aren't as many people on high incomes so that companies have more money to redistribute to lower earners.

He said Germany do it.
Their tax rate appears comparable to our own.
So his point appears to be invalid unless I am missing something regarding Germany.
 
Insinuating one man and his policy is somehow responsible for 13,000 suicides is some chat.

Mate I'm watching the golf I'm not going to search out some benefits site with some research pointing to that figure if you are interested do a search using what you think might be the parameters that will result in the correct answers, IS changed the rules so the figures are hard to find by simple request.
 
I note terminal boy isn't being requested to show proof method and research to prove his allegation that IS cured more cripples than Jesus.
 
Maybe they have less income inequality before taxation. I know they have much more union representation, including at board level in Germany, be interesting to know if they have zero hours contracts over there, somehow I doubt it. I think the make up of the German economy also helps avoid extreme income inequality - they're famous for having an economy based on lots of medium sized companies, rather than few mega-corps we have here in the UK.

Zero hour contracts are much less widespread in Germany due to a few contract law differences IRC.

The point about their tax intake is interesting, they take in more tax than us, and spend less.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending#As_a_percentage_of_GDP
 
The bottom 10%, the poorest people in this country, across all forms of taxation, pay 45% tax on their income.....

Where as the top 10% pay just 33%..

This needs to stop, right here, right now.

and a good analogy I saw somewhere (could have been here) is that it should not come from "how can we tax the rich more", but from how we should tax the poor less!.


More to it than that of course. vimeo.com/116297032
 
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The bottom 10%, the poorest people in this country, across all forms of taxation, pay 45% tax on their income.....

Where as the top 10% pay just 33%..

This needs to stop, right here, right now.

and a good analogy I saw somewhere (could have been here) is that it should not come from "how can we tax the rich more", but from how we should tax the poor less!.

Also what needs to stop is the ridiculous practice of taxing the lowest earners and then handing it back in benefits.
 
The bottom 10%, the poorest people in this country, across all forms of taxation, pay 45% tax on their income.....

Where as the top 10% pay just 33%..

This needs to stop, right here, right now.

and a good analogy I saw somewhere (could have been here) is that it should not come from "how can we tax the rich more", but from how we should tax the poor less!.

They do not pay 45% of 'income' tax.

In your analogy is if someone 'rich' and someone 'poor' buy the same car, then in VAT terms the poor person has paid more tax.
No they have not. They have paid the same amount of tax. Whether or not that amount is a larger % of their total amount of money is a different matter.

Are you suggesting we should have different VAT rates, council tax rates for everything as a proportion of what you have? If so then state which items should be categorised and subject to this luxury rate of VAT. I am not against this in reality, but you have to be careful on what you suggest.

I just ponder if you think a good way to do it, is by adding 12% to the income tax rate? I think this would be short sighted and idiotic, people have different expenses at different income levels.

I chose to have sickness protection, sickness insurance, income protection policies, critical illness cover, life insurance and assurance. None of this is tax deductible, but if I lose a hand, or some such injury, I will still be able to care and afford my family. I won't be a sponge on society, I am not in your 10% top chaps, nowhere close to it.

These policies slap my disposable income massively, but they won't be anywhere in your figures on the amount of tax I pay, yet me taking such policies benefits the rest of society by in the case of such an event means I won't be a benefit claimant for the rest of my life.

How would you end the massive disparity you see in the figures? How exactly do they arrive to the totals?
 
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