Poll: General election voting round 5 (final one)
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Not at all.
People shouldn't vote on what they don't know and don't understand. It is in no way a good idea to allow the public such a vote, with put massive education on what they are actually voting on, which is impossible.
Historically Labour was a good choice, come 1993 and suddenly Conservatives mark 2.
Unfortunately a pesky thing called democracy exists
Again rubbish, we do not have direct democracy and never will, direct democracy doesn't work and can never work.
You do not have a referendum on every act of parliament yet we still have a democracy. so it's just a silly post with no meaning.
I actually thought he had improved a bit to be fair, tonight he was woeful though.
I imagine by the Monday after the election there will be Labour voices saying "We should have ditched him before the election".
Shame non of them had the courage.
Thats the best you can come up with? Good thing people like you don't run the country, my god we would be screwed.
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Because direct democracy would be so good. Everyone voting on stuff they don't have a clue about. Great way of running anything, let alone a country.
Oh look majority want something totally stupid and backwards, well as it's the majority lets implement it.
It's a good thing you aren't in power. Direct democracy is a total shambles and never can work and thankfully we don't have it.
Because direct democracy would be so good. Everyone voting on stuff they don't have a clue about. Great way of running anything, let alone a country.
Oh look majority want something totally stupid and backwards, well as it's the majority lets implement it.
It's a good thing you aren't in power. Direct democracy is a total shambles and never can work and thankfully we don't have it.
Most MP's vote how they are told and not based on what is correct.
Would we be any worse off?
Most MP's vote how they are told and not based on what is correct.
Would we be any worse off?
Yes, at least government have advisors even if they are ignored most of the time and generally have long careers in politics. Just need laws to force professional advice into decision making, which would be even further away from direct democracy.
Current government is stupid, but it's not even in the same sport let alone league of direct democracy stupidity,
Because direct democracy would be so good. Everyone voting on stuff they don't have a clue about. Great way of running anything, let alone a country.
Oh look majority want something totally stupid and backwards, well as it's the majority lets implement it.
It's a good thing you aren't in power. Direct democracy is a total shambles and never can work and thankfully we don't have it.
Did I say a direct democracy would be good? No. So go take your high horse "I know better than everyone else" and go cuddle up to Ed.
The fact is *nobody* knows what the outcome of leaving the EU will have on the UK. You can look at studies and publications from one extreme to the other, its all speculation until it happens. (Personally, I would like to see it just to see what happens, just like I would have liked old Gordon Brown the let the banks collapse to see what happened afterwards)
Regardless, as it currently stands, the UK currently throws 20-60Million a day (pick a figure which suits your agenda based on rebates etc etc etc) into the EU, which means its UK taxpayers money, and they should have a vote on where that money goes.
The idiotic unfounded Anti-EU posts in these threads is reason enough why there should be no referendum.
People without the knowledge and understanding should have no part in voting for such things.
Except that there's a reasonable possibility they could extract a better deal for Scotland from the Tories than they could from Labour. I don't mean a formal coalition, obviously, but in terms of giving Scotland more autonomy in exchange for not standing in the way of 'English votes for English laws', etc. It was discussed a little earlier in the thread, rather than rehashing it all now, if you want to go back and look.
That's as opposed to merely being able to support Labour policies when ones the SNP like come up. They wouldn't even have the power the formal opposition have to shape the legislative timetable.
On one hand you have not shooting down the Tories and that being unpopular with some Scots (but getting something big in return, so as it make it saleable... and bear in mind the SNP and Tories have worked together before, in Scotland). Then on the other hand you have helping prop up Ed Miliband, potentially without any meaningful input in shaping the direction of policy and not getting any 'big wins' out of it for Scotland, which would result in cries of, 'we voted SNP but got Ed Miliband... we didn't even get a big say'.
You're too quick to absolutely rule out all sorts.
To be clear, I am not the one that is proving the likely labour outcome. I'm just re-presenting what other analysts are reporting.
Oh god, perfect post on why there shouldn't be a referendum. Tax goes on every choice of parliament (so you are implying direct democracy) and we don't just throw money at EU, we get huge amounts back and not just in rebates.
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-04-29/...stigate-the-bbc-over-have-i-got-news-for-you/
UKIP butthurt over Have I Got News For You... It's going to make them look petty tbh.
UKIP butthurt over Have I Got News For You... It's going to make them look petty tbh.
And your post is a perfect example of why we should have a referendum.
It works both ways and because you have some opinion you may be smarter than everyone else on the matter (trust me, you're not), shouting louder doesn't make it any more true.
That's the whole point of a representative democracy.
Either way you need to take that stick out your arse, twice in 1 page of this thread you've taken offense to light hearted jovial comments.
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