German court rules circumcision is 'bodily harm'

Pighardia · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:55

Good decision. It should be banned here as well with regards to parents deciding for children.

Though personally I had to have a circumcision a few months ago, and tbh I wish my parents had decided for me when I was a kid ....It was agony!

Yas786 · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:55

Bad decision imo, all this will do is push it underground then i wonder how the Germans will deal with it?? if at all??

CaptainRAVE · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:56

Nice one stulid

One · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:57

Yas786 said:
Bad decision imo, all this will do is push it underground then i wonder how the Germans will deal with it?? if at all??

Not so sure about this, babies are often checked over by GPs, I can't imagine it being hard for a GP to report the parents of a baby that has suddenly had its nob chopped off.

Pate · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:58

Yas786 said:
Bad decision imo, all this will do is push it underground then i wonder how the Germans will deal with it?? if at all??

Severe jail sentences?

Hopefully more countries in Europe will follow this.

And yes I'm religious, I think it's disgusting that people think they've got a right to mutilate a child.

sithlord · 1 Jul 2012 at 15:58

75% of Americans are circumcised.. its not just a Jewish / Muslim thing.

RomanNose · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:00

sithlord said:
75% of Americans are circumcised.. its not just a Jewish / Muslim thing.

So 50% of American women are circumcised?

Craterloads · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:00

Rather be circumcised as a child than as an adult, ouch. And its hardily mutilation, removing a cheesy foreskin.

Yas786 said:
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Yas786, the 786 is just so TP come on man

Amnesia · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:00

What about piercings, mothers getting their little girls ears pierced.

T345 · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:00

Is OK for religious and medical reasons, none other though, unless they have a choice. I chose to be circumcised, and I am a muslim

Kenai · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:01

desires said:
had its nob chopped off.

ermmm... are you entirely sure you know what you're talking about? :confused:

Craterloads · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:01

desires said:
GP to report the parents of a baby that has suddenly had its nob chopped off.

Exaggerate much?

bitslice · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:02

This is fundamentally wrong as it infringes on the right of parents to decide what is best for their child, that includes what faith it will be taught.
Either there is freedom of religion or there isn't, and banning this is banning a central part of Jewish faith, it is a rite of passage for them.

Still, nothing like having a pop at people's beliefs if they don't match yours.

T345 · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:02

nob chopped off

Thats not circumcision !

The Halk · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:02

T345 said:
Is OK for religious and medical reasons, none other though, unless they have a choice. I chose to be circumcised, and I am a muslim

You didn't choose to be circumcised, you're too young to consent. Your parents chose for you.

It's not OK for religious purposes.

The Halk · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:03

bitslice said:
This is fundamentally wrong as it infringes on the right of parents to decide what is best for their child, that includes what faith it will be taught.
Either there is freedom of religion or there isn't, and banning this is banning a central part of Jewish faith, it is a rite of passage for them.

Still, nothing like having a pop at people's beliefs if they don't match yours.

So what if my religion was to tattoo a swastika on children's foreheads at age 4?

Religion doesn't trump basic human rights.

Yas786 · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:03

desires said:
Not so sure about this, babies are often checked over by GPs, I can't imagine it being hard for a GP to report the parents of a baby that has suddenly had its nob chopped off.

Its only a bit of skin lol, true you do have a point but i imagine people will find a way to circumvent that issue

....where theres a will theres a way

Robbo · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:03

desires said:
I can't imagine there ever being a medical reason to mutilate children.

You know what I meant. I hope, anyway.

Yas786 said:
Its only a bit of skin lol, true you do have a point but i imagine people will find a way to circumvent that issue....where theres a will theres a way

I'm pretty sure you could cook up some extremely harsh sentences for the mutilation of infant children. People would think twice then, after all, it's a long, long way from being essential or even required at all.

T345 · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:04

The Halk said:
You didn't choose to be circumcised, you're too young to consent. Your parents chose for you.

It's not OK for religious purposes.

They asked me if I wanted to do it?
I was 8 years old. It's not that painful.

Kenai · 1 Jul 2012 at 16:04

bitslice said:
This is fundamentally wrong as it infringes on the right of parents to decide what is best for their child, that includes what faith it will be taught.
Either there is freedom of religion or there isn't, and banning this is banning a central part of Jewish faith, it is a rite of passage for them.

Still, nothing like having a pop at people's beliefs if they don't match yours.

Which right is more important?

The right of a parent to choose to physically mutilate their child permanently or the right of the child to not be mutilated and choose the fate of their own body and beliefs?

I'd go with the latter - I suspect many religious folks would go with the former.