German Grand Prix 2012, Hockenheim - Race 10/20

Guerrilla · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:44

Enjoyed that race, great drive by Alonso.

Feel a 10 second penalty would be fair to Vettal, would set them back the other way around.

Flibster · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:44

Oh god... More bloody Santander logo trophys.

Generic garbage. Isn't all the santander logo scattered everywhere else around the track enough? Come up with something original!

el_dazza · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:44

How is MSC embarassing? First year he'd been away from the sport for 3 full seasons and was in a car that was 4th best, soundly beaten by a younger driver which is understandable. Last year he was a lot closer to Rosberg and was consistently scoring points, and this year he's had a pole and a podium in a season riddled with horrendous bad luck :confused:

Spuj · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:44

Flibster said:
The race results can still be protested, the previous stewards decision means nothing then.

The way I read it on the BBC is that it can't be disputed any further which includes the whole race weekend.

Memphis · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:45

Well, think Alonso for the Championship this year now. So long as Ferrari don't let him down with the car, he's becoming the class driver this year. (Not suggesting he wasn't before today)

el_dazza · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:45

Mattey1 said:
Not at all

Alonso didn't overtake off the track.

Yeah if you read it again, I did kinda say that :rolleyes:

Freakbro · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:45

ShakenNstirred said:
rules are you cant overtake while your off the track and he was well off the track

Hammy was off track when he overtook Rosberg round that corner, no-one made this fuss then, since Ros gave Hammy nowhere to go. Same issue imo

Edit: a few races ago I mean

Flibster · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:45

And now Niki 'Hamilton is wrong, dangerous, brilliant, unsafe, should be banned' Lauda

Mr Men · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:46

F1 Fanatic @f1fanatic_co_uk

I wonder if the stewards will conclude Vettel's pass wasn't really legal but the rules don't allow them to punish him...

LOL

el_dazza · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:46

Freakbro said:
Hammy was off track when he overtook Rosberg round that corner, no-one made this fuss then, since Ros gave Hammy nowhere to go. Same issue imo

Nah, that's different, Hamilton's allowed to do that, as he's god.

~Mike~ · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:46

Flibster said:
And now Niki 'Hamilton is wrong, dangerous, brilliant, unsafe, should be banned' Lauda

ROFL

Spuj · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:46

Memphis said:
Well, think Alonso for the Championship this year now. So long as Ferrari don't let him down with the car, he's becoming the class driver this year. (Not suggesting he wasn't before today)

Thinking the same to be honest, driving superbly.

MagicBoy · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:47

Vettel : "He didn't complain to me"

Rubbish!

Spuj · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:47

el_dazza said:
Nah, that's different, Hamilton's allowed to do that, as he's god.

Psycho Ned · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:48

MagicBoy said:
Vettel : "He didn't complain to me"

Rubbish!

Haha indeed! He didn't complain apart from when he told him about it as soon as they got to the pre podium bit!

~Mike~ · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:49

Clearly gained the position by going off the track

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:50

Alonso looking good for the championship?

sunama · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:50

el_dazza said:
How is MSC embarassing? First year he'd been away from the sport for 3 full seasons and was in a car that was 4th best, soundly beaten by a younger driver which is understandable. Last year he was a lot closer to Rosberg and was consistently scoring points, and this year he's had a pole and a podium in a season riddled with horrendous bad luck

IMO and statistically, MSc is the best (most complete) driver of all time. Statistics show he is BY FAR the best (not by a small amount).

For any other driver, MSc's 2nd career (being beaten every year by his team-mate, who is not a great driver), would be fine. For the greatest driver of all time - its embarrassing and certainly tarnishes the greatest name in F1 (as shown by the record books), ever.

~Mike~ · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:51

CaptainRAVE said:
Alonso looking good for the championship?

Yep, thought that a few races ago. Class of the field imho.

el_dazza · 22 Jul 2012 at 14:53

sunama said:
IMO and statistically, MSc is the best (most complete) driver of all time. Statistics show he is BY FAR the best (not by a small amount).

For any other driver, MSc's 2nd career (being beaten every year by his team-mate, who is not a great driver), would be fine. For the greatest driver of all time - its embarrassing and certainly tarnishes the greatest name in F1 (as shown by the record books), ever.

You seem to forget he was 41 when he returned, how many 41 year olds have been successful since Fangio's era? Most drivers wouldn't dare compete over 40, but he's given it a damn good go out of love for the sport. He's getting back to be a very good driver, just hasn't got the car to consistently challenge.