German Grand Prix 2012, Hockenheim - Race 10/20

Thought there wasn't much drag reduction benefit from a fancy DDRS on the rear wing as the DRS already does that function? Merc's focuses on the front wing. Oh well.....

So basically the best solution is to combine the Merc and Lotus for super drag reduction both front and rear? :D
 
Oh lawd....

I also heard the commentator going on about pts being awarded for fastest lap in the race. GP2/3 is certainly different to F1!
 
Oh lawd....

I also heard the commentator going on about pts being awarded for fastest lap in the race. GP2/3 is certainly different to F1!

Points for pole and fastest lap ontop of race position points. Points are different between the Sprint and Feature race. I didn't realise that like GP2, the GP3 race on Saturday is a feature race with a compulsory pit stop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2_Series#Point_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP3_Series#Point_system

The points for fastest lap and pole only work because its a spec series though. I'm not sure it would work in F1.
 
tyres would fall apart :D plus it would probably just see those no chance of points pit with 3 laps to go for fresh tyres to go for it, actually maybe not a bad idea then lol, 5 points would be too much though.
 
I am not sure why they haven't done this?

Because it isn't fair. F1 is not a level playing field. In single spec series they do it because everyone has a (pretty much) even chance of going for it, and it creates a good show. In F1 it would be rewarding the teams who already have the fastest cars. HRT or Marussia are never going to get pole or the fastest lap, and do you think Vettel needed any extra points last year :p
 
Because it isn't fair. F1 is not a level playing field. In single spec series they do it because everyone has a (pretty much) even chance of going for it, and it creates a good show. In F1 it would be rewarding the teams who already have the fastest cars. HRT or Marussia are never going to get pole or the fastest lap.

Yeah but then you could say they're never going to win either.
 
Yeah but then you could say they're never going to win either.

True, but its still not about the driver. GP2 and 3 is an open playing field, whereas F1 has major car disparity. You would have been throwing points at Vettel and Webber last year for Red Bull's car performance...

It needs to be about giving people points for performing well on that day, not just for being in a fast car. I think the reward of pole position is enough already.

The fastest lap point definitely wouldn't work in F1 due to the tyre management and differing pit stops too. Is it fair to give the guy in 10th extra points just because he made an extra stop 2 laps from the end onto fresh soft rubber and put his foot down?
 
McLaren:
Jenson Button: "We got some good running under our belts today. Conditions weren't perfect, but the forecast looks the same for tomorrow; so it was a very useful session for us and I think we gathered some useful data in terms of comparative tyre and set-up work. For us, trying to get the tyres working is one of our main issues, so we spent a lot of time focusing on that - it wasn't all successful, but when things came together, our pace was good. We've still got some more work to do to be quick in the wet, but FP2 was a useful session in terms of telling us where we need to be heading. I think we should be happy with most of the parts we've put on today - most of them worked correctly - so it's nice to see the improvement. I want to say a big 'well done' to the guys at the factory, they've done a great job. Hopefully we'll be able to see the improvement in performance throughout the rest of the weekend."

Lewis Hamilton: "The men and women back at the factory did an incredible job to get all the upgrades to the track this weekend - they all deserve a big pat on the back for that. It's quite a positive step: it's still difficult to accurately predict was sort of a step we've taken as we couldn't back-to-back between the old and new components, but it's definitely a step forward. Hopefully, we'll get more of an indication as the weekend progresses - although, with more wet weather predicted for tomorrow, it might not be until Sunday that we can tell what we've got. Still, the car doesn't feel bad at all. It's tough in the wet out there; like driving around on an ice-rink - with puddles! - but I feel positive that we can do something good this weekend."

Lotus F1:
Romain Grosjean: "It was a difficult session with the rain coming down. It looks like we'll have more wet running tomorrow so it was good to get a feel for the wet and intermediate tyres. We had a few things we were hoping to test in dry conditions but unfortunately this was not the case. If we get to Sunday without any dry laps then people won't have so much of an idea about tyre degradation and the difference between the compounds, which may help me starting further back on the grid with the penalty. Either way, we now have a good base line setup from today and hopefully this will help bring us a decent result at the end of the weekend."

Kimi Raikkonen: "We didn't learn a lot today with the weather conditions as they were ; it was like Silverstone when we also didn't have very good conditions. We tried a few different things which I think some people noticed today. It would have been nice to have some more dry track time but you can't do anything about that. The track does feel quite slippery when it's wet ; it's definitely not very grippy in these conditions. Overall, it was a pretty normal Friday when you try different things and get as much running as the weather allows."

Force India:
Nico Hulkenberg: "Another Friday practice where it was difficult to find a rhythm and get through the job list. In the morning the rain showers only gave us very limited time to run dry tyres, so I didn't really get a feel for the hard development tyre. The track surface here is also very smooth and it was quite low grip this morning, especially with the damp parts of the track. With the rain showers this afternoon, all we could do was understand the wet and intermediate tyres in case the wet weather continues tomorrow."

Paul di Resta: "A very short day for me with limited mileage in the wet. The track was drying up quite nicely towards the middle of the session and it was near to the crossover point for slicks until the rain returned. We've done our wet weather preparation so we just need to see what the weather brings tomorrow."

Toro Rosso:
Daniel Ricciardo: "The morning went well in terms of doing a lot of laps and getting plenty of track time. We evaluated some changes to the front wing, doing a back to back test, in a sort of mini-aero test, to provide the guys with some data. Then, we were able to get on with the usual Friday programme and I stayed on the Prime tyre, rather than trying the experimental Hard that was available today. Considering how many laps I did, I think the lap time was not too bad and I am hoping we can be more competitive here than in Silverstone. This afternoon off the track? I just locked up the front and slid into the gravel. There was no damage done and I'm just glad I didn't hit anything. The wet running went well and could be useful if we have rain for qualifying."

Jean-Eric Vergne: "In the dry this morning, the car worked pretty well and the lap times don't mean much, as I was running the Hard prototype tyre Pirelli brought here for evaluation purposes. I felt the car was strong in FP1, which means we have a decent car for dry conditions if that's what comes for the rest of the weekend. Then, in the wet this afternoon, I was pleasantly surprised at how well things went on the Extreme wets. When I ran the Intermediates, we did not have the right balance on the car, but I'm sure we can fix that, in which case I would be happy if we had rain tomorrow afternoon for qualifying. It should be good!"
 
Just watching the F1 Show. Who is this Rachel woman? Not brilliant, but already a million times better than the beige bint.
 
She looks a little nervous but other than that seems decent.

She seems interested in what's being said, and her questions and comments follow on from what is being discussed, which is a massive improvement.

Who is she? New, or have Sky shipped her in from their other programming?
 
Agreed, it would keep things interesting towards the end. I am not sure why they haven't done this?

because it gives the fastest car a a clear advantage ?

usually one team is head and shoulders above the rest and i doubt f1 will stay like it is now for very long.

once normal order is restored the fastest car would have a silly advantage if they got points for pole and FL

i bet if someone backdated that over the years most seasons wouldnt have been anywhere near a title clincher at the end of the season
 
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