German Grand Prix 2013, Nürburgring - Race 9/19

Championship Standings

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[b]Drivers:                      Constructors:             [/b]
 1.  Vettel        157        1.  Red Bull-Renault          250
 2.  Alonso        123        2.  Mercedes                  181
 3.  Raikkonen     118        3.  Ferrari                   180
 4.  Hamilton       97        4.  Lotus-Renault             159
 5.  Webber         93        5.  Force India-Mercedes       59
 6.  Rosberg        84        6.  McLaren-Mercedes           49
 7.  Massa          57        7.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         24
 8.  Grosjean       41        8.  Sauber-Ferrari              7
 9.  Di Resta       36       
10.  Button         33       
11.  Sutil          23       
12.  Perez          16       
13.  Vergne         13       
14.  Ricciardo      11       
15.  Hulkenberg      7
 
Camera man getting hit was awful. Can't get my conspiracy cap off however knowing the underhanded tactics and politics that go on behind the scenes in F1.

Who else thought when there was talk of an undercut on Vettel by Webber that Mark was going to have a mysterious slow stop? I know I was thinking it!

All bad starts and misfortunes seem to happen to Webber and every time he is close to Vettel in performance and race position it goes pear shaped - Vettel has perhaps one mechanical failure a year, and perhaps one bad luck incident on average. His bad luck ratio to Mark astoundingly low. Not taking away from the fact he is one of the top three drivers in the sport, but he has one of the richest and best supporting crew in Redbull backing him up and putting his needs first even though they never admit that in public.

Really hope Redbull didn't have a dodgy wheel gun to cause a delay on the stop for a second as Webber was about to undercut Vettel, who they had no choice to bring in to counter Kimi giving Webber an advantage. They could not have known a wheel would go flying down the pitlane as a result and probably thought it would just look like a slow innocent wheel jack change but the rest of the crew weren't in on it.

I know I know, crazy conspiracy but after other stories that have come out from F1 from behind the scenes over the years I'm never sure! Likely hood is very low, I guess the real reason is I can’t stand Schumacher style dominance again for another five years so need to come up with ways to discredit Vettel. Sad I know. :(

Anyway, hope the camera guy is ok. He really should get a good payout for that - also crazy people are permitted in the pits without safety wear. Seems like a massive oversight especially as we can have cameras hanging over the pits rather than camera men in the pits.
 
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Camera man getting hit was awful. Can't get my conspiracy cap off however knowing the underhanded tactics and politics that go on behind the scenes in F1.

Who else thought when there was talk of an undercut on Vettel by Webber that Mark was going to have a mysterious slow stop? I know I was thinking it!

All bad starts and misfortunes seem to happen to Webber and every time he is close to Vettel in performance and race position it goes pear shaped - Vettel has perhaps one mechanical failure a year, and perhaps one bad luck incident on average. His bad luck ratio to Mark astoundingly low. Not taking away from the fact he is one of the top three drivers in the sport, but he has one of the richest and best supporting crew in Redbull backing him up and putting his needs first even though they never admit that in public.

Really hope Redbull didn't have a dodgy wheel gun to cause a delay on the stop for a second as Webber was about to undercut Vettel, who they had no choice to bring in to counter Kimi giving Webber an advantage. They could not have know a wheel would go flying down the pitlane as a result and probably thought it would just look like a slow innocent wheel jack change but the rest of the crew weren't in on it.

I know I know, crazy conspiracy but after other stories that have come out from F1 from behind the scenes over the years I'm never sure! Likely hood is very low, I guess the real reason is I can’t stand Schumacher style dominance again for another five years so need to come up with ways to discredit Vettel. Sad I know. :(

Anyway, hope the camera guy is ok. He really should get a good payout for that - also crazy people are permitted in the pits without safety wear. Seems like a massive oversight especially as we can have cameras hanging over the pits rather than camera men in the pits.
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Well as much as everyone sympathises with Webber, and as obvious as it is that RBR favours Vettel, I think there are probably easier ways to foil Webber than what happened today.
 
Nice to see Mercedes still ahead of Ferrari in the standings.

I think that 2nd in the WCC would be a good result for them over the entire year.
 
Jenson fuming with the Caterhams. I wondered why he lost so much time at the end. Deffo would have finished ahead of Lewis if not for the brainfade Caterhams.
 
Webber easily had Vettel at that stop. The whole thing stank imo.

Almost like they planned a misfit wheel. But accidentally let him drive off. Glad to hear the camera man is ok, I thought he was fatally injured.
 
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