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Discussion in 'OcUK Full Systems & Bundles' started by Filipe Silva, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. P1Fanatic

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 27, 2005

    Posts: 685

    Location: Reading, UK

    Pro M Tempered Glass for the same reason that evolve has poor airflow and quite a bit more cost wise.
     
  2. Shoeyuk

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 31, 2018

    Posts: 266

    Location: Bury St Edmunds

    Quick question has anyone updated the Bios on the motherboard yet? As i am still running 0430 when it was delivered to me, see its on version 1412, i have not had any issues with the PC. Would updating the Bios lose any of the overclock settings/stability?
     
  3. P1Fanatic

    Hitman

    Joined: Jan 27, 2005

    Posts: 685

    Location: Reading, UK

    I’ve not bothered tbh. Sure I read on these forums that 8pack’s rule of thumb is unless you are trying to fix a problem then leave ur bios version alone.
     
  4. Shoeyuk

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 31, 2018

    Posts: 266

    Location: Bury St Edmunds

    Ok cool thanks, just looking on the Asus forms looks like its improved OC stability and lowering voltages.
     
  5. Zeetroyman

    Associate

    Joined: Feb 8, 2018

    Posts: 15

    yep i aint bothered either.. system is running sweet.
     
  6. ScottiB

    OcUK Systems

    Joined: Nov 16, 2007

    Posts: 1,712

    Location: Stoke-on-Trent

    it depends on where you are coming from. A few months ago there was a BIOS released following the Spectre story, this severely borked overclocking capabilities. It might be that those who have experienced improvements could be comparing it to that BIOS version rather than a faster, earlier one.
     
  7. nav_dcfc

    Associate

    Joined: Sep 30, 2017

    Posts: 13

    How often do systems like the Germanium or AMD Titan get refreshed by OCUK ? i.e. when will the new equivalents likely appear ?
     
  8. LeoPheonix

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 26, 2007

    Posts: 136

    Unfortunatly i did have to update my bios due to an issue i was having with Bluetooth. The updated bios fixed to issue - but i did lose all the overclock settongs.

    I have an Asus Strix z390-e mobo - although this should be very similar to the standard Mobo which comes with this build.

    Below are the notes I have from OcUK - but it only gets me to 4.7Ghz, not 5ghz,

    Can any of you please share which settings you have in your BIOS so i can get my rig back to 5Ghz?
     
  9. Shoeyuk

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 31, 2018

    Posts: 266

    Location: Bury St Edmunds

    Mine runs at 4.9 with the following settings:

    [2018/10/01 13:48:49]
    Ai Overclock Tuner [XMP]
    XMP [XMP DDR4-3200 16-18-18-38-1.35V]
    BCLK Frequency [100.0000]
    ASUS MultiCore Enhancement [Auto]
    SVID Behavior [Auto]
    AVX Instruction Core Ratio Negative Offset [3]
    CPU Core Ratio [Sync All Cores]
    1-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    2-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    3-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    4-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    5-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    6-Core Ratio Limit [49]
    BCLK Frequency : DRAM Frequency Ratio [Auto]
    DRAM Odd Ratio Mode [Enabled]
    DRAM Frequency [DDR4-3200MHz]
    TPU [Keep Current Settings]
    Power-saving & Performance Mode [Auto]
    CPU SVID Support [Auto]
    CPU Core/Cache Current Limit Max. [Auto]
    Ring Down Bin [Auto]
    Min. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]
    Max CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]
    Extreme Over-voltage [Disabled]
    BCLK Aware Adaptive Voltage [Auto]
    CPU Core/Cache Voltage [Manual Mode]
    - CPU Core Voltage Override [1.360]
    DRAM Voltage [1.3530]
    CPU VCCIO Voltage [1.15000]
    CPU System Agent Voltage [1.15000]
    PCH Core Voltage [Auto]
    CPU Standby Voltage [Auto]
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL0 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL1 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL2 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL3 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL4 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL5 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL6 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank0 BL7 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL0 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL1 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL2 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL3 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL4 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL5 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL6 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA DIMM0 Rank1 BL7 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL0 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL1 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL2 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL3 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL4 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL5 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL6 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank0 BL7 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL0 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL1 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL2 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL3 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL4 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL5 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL6 [Auto]
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB DIMM0 Rank1 BL7 [Auto]
    DRAM CAS# Latency [16]
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay [18]
    DRAM RAS# ACT Time [38]
    DRAM Command Rate [Auto]
    DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay L [Auto]
    DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay S [Auto]
    DRAM REF Cycle Time [Auto]
    DRAM Refresh Interval [Auto]
    DRAM WRITE Recovery Time [Auto]
    DRAM READ to PRE Time [Auto]
    DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto]
    DRAM WRITE to READ Delay [Auto]
    DRAM WRITE to READ Delay L [Auto]
    DRAM WRITE to READ Delay S [Auto]
    DRAM CKE Minimum Pulse Width [Auto]
    DRAM Write Latency [Auto]
    tRDRD_sg [Auto]
    tRDRD_dg [Auto]
    tRDWR_sg [Auto]
    tRDWR_dg [Auto]
    tWRWR_sg [Auto]
    tWRWR_dg [Auto]
    tWRRD_sg [Auto]
    tWRRD_dg [Auto]
    tRDRD_dr [Auto]
    tRDRD_dd [Auto]
    tRDWR_dr [Auto]
    tRDWR_dd [Auto]
    tWRWR_dr [Auto]
    tWRWR_dd [Auto]
    tWRRD_dr [Auto]
    tWRRD_dd [Auto]
    TWRPRE [Auto]
    TRDPRE [Auto]
    tREFIX9 [Auto]
    OREF_RI [Auto]
    MRC Fast Boot [Auto]
    DRAM CLK Period [Auto]
    Memory Scrambler [Enabled]
    Channel A DIMM Control [Enable both DIMMs]
    Channel B DIMM Control [Enable both DIMMs]
    MCH Full Check [Auto]
    Training Profile [Auto]
    DLLBwEn [Auto]
    DRAM SPD Write [Disabled]
    DRAM RTL INIT value [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHA DIMM0 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHA DIMM0 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHA DIMM1 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHA DIMM1 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHB DIMM0 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHB DIMM0 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHB DIMM1 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM RTL (CHB DIMM1 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHA DIMM0 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHA DIMM0 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHA DIMM1 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHA DIMM1 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHB DIMM0 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHB DIMM0 Rank1) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHB DIMM1 Rank0) [Auto]
    DRAM IOL (CHB DIMM1 Rank1) [Auto]
    CHA IO_Latency_offset [Auto]
    CHB IO_Latency_offset [Auto]
    CHA RFR delay [Auto]
    CHB RFR delay [Auto]
    ODT RTT WR (CHA) [Auto]
    ODT RTT PARK (CHA) [Auto]
    ODT RTT NOM (CHA) [Auto]
    ODT RTT WR (CHB) [Auto]
    ODT RTT PARK (CHB) [Auto]
    ODT RTT NOM (CHB) [Auto]
    ODT_READ_DURATION [Auto]
    ODT_READ_DELAY [Auto]
    ODT_WRITE_DURATION [Auto]
    ODT_WRITE_DELAY [Auto]
    Data Rising Slope [Auto]
    Data Rising Slope Offset [Auto]
    Cmd Rising Slope [Auto]
    Cmd Rising Slope Offset [Auto]
    Ctl Rising Slope [Auto]
    Ctl Rising Slope Offset [Auto]
    Clk Rising Slope [Auto]
    Clk Rising Slope Offset [Auto]
    Data Falling Slope [Auto]
    Data Falling Slope Offset [Auto]
    Cmd Falling Slope [Auto]
    Cmd Falling Slope Offset [Auto]
    Ctl Falling Slope [Auto]
    Ctl Falling Slope Offset [Auto]
    Clk Falling Slope [Auto]
    Clk Falling Slope Offset [Auto]
    CPU Load-line Calibration [Level 6]
    CPU Current Capability [Auto]
    CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Auto]
    VRM Spread Spectrum [Auto]
    CPU Power Duty Control [T.Probe]
    CPU Power Phase Control [Auto]
    CPU VRM Thermal Control [Auto]
    Intel(R) SpeedStep(tm) [Auto]
    Turbo Mode [Enabled]
    Long Duration Package Power Limit [Auto]
    Package Power Time Window [Auto]
    Short Duration Package Power Limit [Auto]
    IA AC Load Line [Auto]
    IA DC Load Line [Auto]
    PCI Express Native Power Management [Disabled]
    PCH DMI ASPM [Disabled]
    ASPM [Disabled]
    L1 Substates [Disabled]
    PCI Express Clock Gating [Enabled]
    DMI Link ASPM Control [Disabled]
    PEG - ASPM [Disabled]
    Hyper-Threading [Enabled]
    Active Processor Cores [All]
    Intel Virtualization Technology [Enabled]
    Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
    Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled]
    SW Guard Extensions (SGX) [Software Controlled]
    Tcc Offset Time Window [Auto]
    Intel(R) SpeedStep(tm) [Auto]
    Turbo Mode [Enabled]
    CPU C-states [Auto]
    CFG Lock [Disabled]
    VT-d [Disabled]
    Above 4G Decoding [Disabled]
    Primary Display [Auto]
    iGPU Multi-Monitor [Disabled]
    DMI Max Link Speed [Auto]
    PCIEX16_1 Link Speed [Auto]
    PCIEX16_2 Link Speed [Auto]
    IOAPIC 24-119 Entries [Enabled]
    PCIe Speed [Auto]
    SATA Controller(s) [Enabled]
    SATA Mode Selection [AHCI]
    Aggressive LPM Support [Disabled]
    SMART Self Test [Enabled]
    SATA6G_1(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_1 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    SATA6G_2(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_2 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    SATA6G_3(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_3 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    SATA6G_4(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_4 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    SATA6G_5(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_5 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    SATA6G_6(Charcoal Black) [Enabled]
    SATA6G_6 Hot Plug [Disabled]
    TPM Device Selection [Discrete TPM]
    VccCore Override Enable [Disabled]
    VccST Override Enable [Disabled]
    VccSA Override Enable [Disabled]
    VccSFR_OC Override Enable [Disabled]
    VccSFR Override Enable [Disabled]
    VccIO Override Enable [Disabled]
    Core PLL Voltage Offset [0]
    GT PLL Voltage Offset [0]
    Ring PLL Voltage Offset [0]
    System Agent PLL Voltage Offset [0]
    Memory Controller PLL Voltage Offset [0]
    Security Device Support [Enable]
    Pending operation [None]
    Platform Hierarchy [Enabled]
    Storage Hierarchy [Enabled]
    Endorsement Hierarchy [Enabled]
    TPM2.0 UEFI Spec Version [TCG_2]
    Physical Presence Spec Version [1.3]
    ErP Ready [Disabled]
    Restore AC Power Loss [Power Off]
    Power On By PCI-E [Disabled]
    Power On By Ring [Disabled]
    Power On By RTC [Disabled]
    Hyper M.2X16 [Disabled]
    HD Audio Controller [Enabled]
    DVI Port Audio [Disabled]
    Depop [Enabled]
    M.2_1 Configuration [Auto]
    M.2_2 PCIe Bandwidth Configuration: [X2][X4] [X2 Mode]
    Asmedia USB 3.1 Controller [Enabled]
    When system is in working state [On]
    When system is in sleep, hibernate or soft off states [On]
    Intel LAN Controller [Enabled]
    Intel PXE Option ROM [Disabled]
    USB Type C Power Switch [Auto]
    Serial Port 1 [Enabled]
    Change Settings [IO=3F8h; IRQ=4]
    Network Stack [Disabled]
    Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
    USB Keyboard and Mouse Simulator [Disabled]
    USB3G1_1 [Enabled]
    USB3G1_2 [Enabled]
    USB3G1_3 [Enabled]
    USB3G1_4 [Enabled]
    USB3G1_5 [Enabled]
    USB3G1_6 [Enabled]
    USB9 [Enabled]
    USB10 [Enabled]
    USB11 [Enabled]
    USB12 [Enabled]
    USB13 [Enabled]
    USB14 [Enabled]
    CPU Temperature [Monitor]
    MotherBoard Temperature [Monitor]
    PCH Temperature [Monitor]
    T_Sensor Temperature [Monitor]
    EXT_Sensor1 Temperature [Monitor]
    EXT_Sensor2 Temperature [Monitor]
    EXT_Sensor3 Temperature [Monitor]
    CPU Fan Speed [Monitor]
    CPU Optional Fan Speed [Monitor]
    Chassis Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
    M.2 Fan Speed [Monitor]
    Chassis Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
    Extension Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
    Extension Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
    Extension Fan 3 Speed [Monitor]
    AIO PUMP Speed [Monitor]
    CPU Core Voltage [Monitor]
    CPU Graphics Voltage [Monitor]
    3.3V Voltage [Monitor]
    5V Voltage [Monitor]
    12V Voltage [Monitor]
    PCH Core Voltage [Monitor]
    CPU System Agent Voltage [Monitor]
    CPU VCCIO Voltage [Monitor]
    DRAM Voltage [Monitor]
    CPU Standby Voltage [Monitor]
    DMI Voltage [Monitor]
    Chassis Intrusion Detection Support [Disabled]
    CPU Q-Fan Control [PWM Mode]
    CPU Fan Speed Lower Limit [200 RPM]
    CPU Fan Profile [Standard]
    AIO PUMP Control [Disabled]
    Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
    Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
    Chassis Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    Chassis Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
    M.2 Fan Q-Fan Control [Auto]
    M.2 Fan Q-Fan Source [T_Sensor]
    M.2 Fan Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    M.2 Fan Profile [Standard]
    Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [Auto]
    Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
    Chassis Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    Chassis Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
    Extension Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
    Extension Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
    Extension Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    Extension Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
    Extension Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
    Extension Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
    Extension Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    Extension Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
    Extension Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [DC Mode]
    Extension Fan 3 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
    Extension Fan 3 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
    Extension Fan 3 Profile [Standard]
    Fast Boot [Enabled]
    Next Boot after AC Power Loss [Normal Boot]
    Boot Logo Display [Disabled]
    POST Report [5 sec]
    Boot up NumLock State [Enabled]
    Wait For 'F1' If Error [Enabled]
    Option ROM Messages [Force BIOS]
    Interrupt 19 Capture [Disabled]
    Setup Mode [EZ Mode]
    Launch CSM [Enabled]
    Boot Device Control [UEFI and Legacy OPROM]
    Boot from Network Devices [UEFI driver first]
    Boot from Storage Devices [UEFI driver first]
    Boot from PCI-E Expansion Devices [UEFI driver first]
    OS Type [Other OS]
    Setup Animator [Disabled]
    Load from Profile [1]
    Profile Name [OcUK]
    Save to Profile [1]
    Bus Interface [PCIe_x16/x8_1]
     
  10. LeoPheonix

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 26, 2007

    Posts: 136

    Wow, very thorough and very useful, thank you so much.

    So it looks like you also have avx instructions set to 3. In my case I have a standard speed of 4.7ghz with a turbo of 5Ghz. However when i run prime32 and zcore my cpu is only getting to 4.7ghz.
    I could change the avx instruction to 0 or auto and that would get me to 5ghz - but also with a turbo of 5ghz. I am just not sure that that is the correct approach.
     
  11. Shoeyuk

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 31, 2018

    Posts: 266

    Location: Bury St Edmunds

    I think you can also disable AVX in prime32 which will see the CPU hit the top speed. The AVX is set to ensure if you are heavily using it the CPU wont throttle to much as it will get hotter quicker. with it set to windows reports mine to be running at 4.9Ghz pretty much all the time. Running HWmonitor while i game, the cpu also runs at that speed as well.