Getting back into movie surround sound... best bang for buck?

Well, about subs...

I now have the following options, sadly most of which are available to buy in my country so have to be imported:

  • Klipsch R12SW - £325 available locally. Not as good as below but just adding a local option.
  • Bk XXLS400-DF - £450-500 depending on final import tax.
  • SVS SB-1000 - £400-450 depending on final import tax.
  • SVS SB-2000 - £600 or so depending on final import tax.

Thoughts please? :)
 
Buying individually then yeah BK and SVS subs always stood out for me. But owning Dali Zensor 5s and a Dali sub I'd say the sub performs more than adequately.

Its certainly no slouch.

Have always wanted an SVS cylinder sub though.
 
BK. I spent 650 on an REL sub. Wish id got the BK. Unless spending thousands go with BK.

The SVS also have great reviews... though the BK seems to be somewhere between the SVS SB-1000 and SB-2000 and looks like the best value overall.

Buying individually then yeah BK and SVS subs always stood out for me. But owning Dali Zensor 5s and a Dali sub I'd say the sub performs more than adequately.

Its certainly no slouch.

Have always wanted an SVS cylinder sub though.

I checked out the Dali subs but online feedback wasn't grabbing me, which is a shame as it would have been 1000x easier if it had. Which do you have, the 9 or 12F?
 
I have the 12F

I honestly haven't heard anything else that has made me think my Dali was crap or inadequate.
 
I have the 12F

I honestly haven't heard anything else that has made me think my Dali was crap or inadequate.

I didn't say crap or inadequate, but it gets negative criticism for not as powerful, refined or detailed vs other comparable subs like the BK XXLS400 and SVS SB-1000. However we are talking about the difference between good and excellent I think, and I have seen nothing saying the E-12F is a bad sub.
 
I didn't say crap or inadequate, but it gets negative criticism for not as powerful, refined or detailed vs other comparable subs like the BK XXLS400 and SVS SB-1000. However we are talking about the difference between good and excellent I think, and I have seen nothing saying the E-12F is a bad sub.

Yeah I said in my first post that if I was buying individually I would have went for BK or SVS, but since I got my sub with my Zensor 5 5.1 setup I wouldnt pay for something different.

Its a nice sub regardless. I dont think you can go wrong with any Sub around £4-600.
 
Anyone on this forum tried the Arendal 1723 Subwoofer series? http://www.arendalsound.eu/collections/1723-series

I'm now basically stuck between the SVS SB-2000 and the Arendal 1723 Subwoofer 1.

The SVS seems to be more compact and a known performer, whereas the Arendal is brand new and has good feedback on AVforums, but no professional reviews as yet.

The Arendal looks beautiful and obviously has higher specs, but the size and shape are definitelöy less compact http://www.arendalsound.eu/products/1723-subwoofer-1
 
That does look very nice. Cant you demo one somewhere?

Id be tempted just to go against the norm :)
 
That does look very nice. Cant you demo one somewhere?

Id be tempted just to go against the norm :)

Well, I've decided on the SVS ...the Arendal is too big and I think way overkill for my uses. Combined with lack of reputation it's a risk I just don't want to take. I know the SVS is a great performer and am confident to buy it without a trial first. :)
 
Everyone has told you buy BK (best bang for you buck) and then you opt not to. Pointless thread if your not going to take any advice from it.

If your looking for bang for buck nothing will beat BK. Which country are you living in?
 
BK is easier to buy for us, if he's outside the EU it negates a lot of its bang for buck status when you need to pay big shipping fees.
 
Well, have now got everything except the subwoofer (now going to be an SBS SB-12)... ignore the cables they still need to be properly tidied and routed. And yes, I need to put pictures on the walls. :)

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It's amazing how much the Zensor 3's speakers improved when I put them on proper stands (they were previously temporarily resting on dining chairs, heh). I still need to get some rubber feet for the center speaker which should also improve things a bit. The rears are on DJ monitor stands and to be honest I didn't think they would be as big from the photos I saw, they do the job perfectly well and are very stable but are a little overkill in terms of footprint and I may swap them out for something more discreet.

Sounds awesome. I really am very impressed with the Denon X1200W, for £250 you really can't ask for more from a new amp and it has more than enough power to blast out movies in my size room and also importantly sounds decent in stereo for my movie music. I will upgrade this at some point for sure as I used to have a much higher-end amp, but I'm certainly in no rush to do so.

I can't wait to get a sub set up, it really will tie everything together. :)

BK is easier to buy for us, if he's outside the EU it negates a lot of its bang for buck status when you need to pay big shipping fees.

I can't see Psycho's posts but I presume from yours that he was again harping on like a broken record about BK and essentially how much of an idiot I am for following any advice except his. Such a 'pleasant' guy. :)

I chose SVS as in the end I can get an SB-12 for the same price (actually a little lower at £430 when shipping and import duties are taken into account as I am indeed outside of the EU) as a BK XXLS400, and the SVS is more compact and ultimately as good as if not better than the BK. Clearly if there was a price difference it wouldn't be quite as appealing, but the release of the SB-2000 pushed the price of the SB-12 down very far so I am more than happy with that decision. :D
 
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Looks great mate. I was very keen on the Dali speakers when picking mine, very pretty but couldn't get a demo so ended up going KEF.

You don't need any pictures.....you need to put the TV on the wall and then get a PJ and electric screen to match to your sound now! :D

Hope you enjoy it.
 
Looks great mate. I was very keen on the Dali speakers when picking mine, very pretty but couldn't get a demo so ended up going KEF.

You don't need any pictures.....you need to put the TV on the wall and then get a PJ and electric screen to match to your sound now! :D

Hope you enjoy it.

Cheers mate. I did buy mine without demo due to there not being anywhere to demo around me so it was a gamble, however there were so many positive reviews from pros and users alike that I felt confident in doing so. Plus they do look awesome with the red cones! :D

I've never really been a projector fan so I think my next purchase will be a 65" OLED when the prices come down. :)
 
Well, today I received my SVS SB-2000 and wow, it is lovely. Feels very solid and while I wasn't sure about the design in the photos, I really like it in the flesh.


Including shipping and taxes it cost me a grand total of 367 quid. That is considerably cheaper than what the BK would have cost me, 30 quid before taxes were taken into account and probably around 70-80 cheaper when they were. Bargain.

Looking forward to getting it set up. :)

PS: I may also have bought a 65" SUHD TV (JS8500) today too, oops... :o
 
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Photo of my now-complete home cinema:


Still need to tidy things up, but wow... very pleased with it. Full list of components now is:

Front speakers: Dali Zensor 3
Surround speakers: Dali Zensor Pico
Subwoofer: SVS SB-12 NDS
AVR: Denon AVR-X1200W
TV: Samsung UE65JS8550

The Samsung is frigging amazing and the picture is light years ahead of my old 50", so so cinematic. I watched parts of some of my favourite movies Such as Star Wars, Matrix, Cloud Atlas etc and combined with the sound system it's just on another level. I finally have a home cinema that doesn't make me want for anything (well, for a while at least, heh).

Love it. :)
 
Wee update; the SVS sub has integrated very nicely into the system and provides very smooth and subtle bass, I'm very happy with it. Overall it's really a great system and the quality of the Dali speakers is especially pleasing, they sound fantastic and I am very happy I went with the Picos as rears because they perform far in excess of what is required for such a role. :cool:

Also impressive is how the Denon AVR-1200W performs, it continues to make me scratch my head in wonder at how a £250 receiver can be so capable and has so much grunt. :eek:

I really wonder how much sound quality I would hear in real-world terms if I upgraded to for example a Marantz SR7010 or Denon X6200W... :confused:
 
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