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In my experience they are reasonably accurate until you get to the very high groups.
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In my experience they are reasonably accurate until you get to the very high groups.
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TBH I found the 146 is a lot cheaper than some other group 11 cars, even the 145 is considerably more.
just gets tiresome ya'know.
people like dervs. they can easily be tuned to respectable levels and are generally more economical!
i couldn't be arsed whether my car doesn't hit 7k! it doesn't NEED to...
get over it!
if you lot keep on, seriously guys, ima have to bring the rolleyes out
edit: vRS is a good choice for cheap fun motoring, only consider one if you were to decat/remap though. instant 180bhp iirc on these.
tidy up nicely too
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Some do, but even more buy them because they think they need one because it does 5mpg more.
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Not sure about the state of a 100,000 mile Ibiza like.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/594061.htm
But just a suggestion.
These are fast after a remap too.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/594061.htm
But just a suggestion.
These are fast after a remap too.
Sorry, what? It was a legitimate question..
Tupac, have you considered a 320d.
You would have to go for a 1951cc model, as there is no way your budget will stretch to an 04+ 320d unless you go for a mega miles one. A decent 99/00 model can be picked up for less than £4k. FSH and HPI clear is a must. Avoid the 1995cc models from 2001-2003 unless they've had the swirl flap problems sorted.
You would have to go for a 1951cc model, as there is no way your budget will stretch to an 04+ 320d unless you go for a mega miles one. A decent 99/00 model can be picked up for less than £4k. FSH and HPI clear is a must. Avoid the 1995cc models from 2001-2003 unless they've had the swirl flap problems sorted.
[TW]Fox;12227621 said:
times changed with common rail, the gap has increased on the vast majority of engines.
with the fuel prices ever increasing, the money saved by a 'petty' 5-15mpg will surely take priority.
you can hoon a half decent derv all day long and never drop 40-45mpg, a typical equivilant petrol can drop as low as 15-25mpg.
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Is that the fuel prices that have seen Diesel around 10% more than petrol?
Well yea, if it isn't cancelled out by the purchase price and the price of buying a new turbo.
You don't really seem to have a clue, do you? The sort of diesel that wont ever drop below 40-45mpg even when 'hooning' will be something like a 1.4 TDI, perhaps at a push one of the super slow 2.0's. The more powerful ones will be comfortably below 40mpg.
Whereas the type of petrol which will show you 15mpg will be large and/or turbocharged and offer considerable perfrmance - therefore not equivilent.
tidy up nicely too
never seen a vrs with comps on before, suits it quite well
[TW]Fox;12228705 said:
new turbo?!! in most instances, maybe towards the 200k mark, but hell, most people aren't keen on keeping/purchasing such a car with this mileage anyway.
[TW]Fox;12228705 said:
i stand by my statement. a quick look over on the TDI/HDI forums will show a host of many 150-200bhp dervs, myself included, with owners that claim they never drop 40mpg on a rather aggressive drive.
admittedly, half of these are remapped, but this is practically a must with any car enthuasiast with a derv.
for someone who still assumes the typical derv is smokey, noisy and generally lacking power low down, you barely have a leg to stand on with that statement. things have changed since your 1.9TD
Commonrail turbo and injector issues are unfortunately a little more common than you like to suggest.
They must have a rather different opinion on aggresive driving, then.
for someone who still assumes the typical derv is smokey, noisy and generally lacking power low down, you barely have a leg to stand on with that statement. things have changed since your 1.9TD
Have they? I'd never have known that. Good job you are around with a 2.0 HDi to tell me how great diesels are now.
It's not as if I drive them all the time, is it?
I would suggest that the 2008 BMW 2 litre diesel I am currently driving, and the 2002 3 litre diesel I frequently drive, are rather more refined, powerful, efficient and altogether just plain better than your Citroen so please don't suggest I'm judging all diesels on a Xantia I owned years ago.
They are good engines - very good, infact, but not so much better than the equivilent petrol engines as you'd like to make us think they are.
I just went out and took that from my mum's 06 plate Focus 1.8 TDCi. 37.7mpg it says, averaged over a few thousand miles. Never drop below 40mpg do they?
for someone who still assumes the typical derv is smokey, noisy and generally lacking power low down, you barely have a leg to stand on with that statement. things have changed since your 1.9TD
But they are, though, until the turbo starts providing boost there's no power so below ~2000rpm it's just a big expanse of nothingness.
I love diesel fanboys
[TW]Fox;12229292 said:
injector issues i agree with but hardly a major issue, swap it out and job be done. maybe the turbo thing is a BMW thing, don't hear of many having issues with turbos going
not as a 'common' known problem anyway.[TW]Fox;12229292 said:
maybe so.
[TW]Fox;12229292 said:
i love the banter. i'm just saying how good they are on juice, regardless of the driving style, not once did i claim they are 'better' engines. Of course your current 318d will be more refined and i hope more efficient
stop trying to get personal and listen to the point in question.
I just went out and took that from my mum's 06 plate Focus 1.8 TDCi. 37.7mpg it says, averaged over a few thousand miles. Never drop below 40mpg do they?
i'm talking about remapped dervs
and tell your mum to get the car looked into, that aint right unless its mainly urbanI love diesel fanboys
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