Ghosts? Are you a believer? I didn't really until this happened..

the non believers, would you spend 2 nights in an abandoned hospital or mental asylum, or a graveyard? - if you dont believe ?

alone?
 
Your mind has an amazing ability to piece the world around you. Very occasionally with the right stimulus things get lost in translation and things are seen or are experienced which seem real but it's just your brain trying to make sense of things.

It can be overwhelming and emotional.
 
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DJMK4 said:
the non believers, would you spend 2 nights in an abandoned hospital or mental asylum, or a graveyard? - if you dont believe ?

alone?
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I think most people would. 99% would then come away with no experience but the 1% may accept they encountered something they couldn't explain. Doesn't mean its paranormal, just something they as an individual can't explain.
 
I would rather not spend a night in an abandoned old property. I much prefer my nice warm bed with a memory foam mattress and nice bedroom. I'm not worried about dead things, just the living ones such as rats and spiders.
 
Dis86 said:
I think most people would. 99% would then come away with no experience but the 1% may accept they encountered something they couldn't explain. Doesn't mean its paranormal, just something they as an individual can't explain.
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Its not what happens after the visit, I was more asking would you initially go ahead with it ? even if you dont believe


there would be something strange about the thought of staying somewhere like this, even if you didnt believe


Its all in the "mind"


I have always wanted to explore abondoned haunted places, but the thought of staying in one a couple of nights gives me the chills
 
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The more likely real danger from staying in an abandoned building is the meth heads and tweakers. It might also get a bit chilly. "OMG IM WORRIED ABOUT GHOSTS" is pretty low down on the shopping list of things to get worked up about.
 
apologies if someone has mentioned this, i havent read all 7 pages, its possible op had a type of temporary and inexplicable psychotic break. our brains can do wild things for seemingly no reason at times. but what refutes this is op's mate also saying something strange happened, no way could they both had a psychotic break, unless someone slipped a tab of acid into their beers. i used to totally dismiss things like this as silly, but who knows really, imo there is far more to our existence than science can explain.
 
Tykey said:
apologies if someone has mentioned this, i havent read all 7 pages, its possible op had a type of temporary and inexplicable psychotic break. our brains can do wild things for seemingly no reason at times. but what refutes this is op's mate also saying something strange happened, no way could they both had a psychotic break, unless someone slipped a tab of acid into their beers. i used to totally dismiss things like this as silly, but who knows really, imo there is far more to our existence than science can explain.
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Carbon monoxide is widely attributed to many 'ghost' stories. Even at low levels you can experience hallucinations. Its no coincidence that a lot of these 'experiences' happen in old buildings, where old boilers/open fires with dodgy structural integrity are often in place.
 
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Carbon monoxide is widely attributed to many 'ghost' stories. Even at low levels you can experience hallucinations. Its no coincidence that a lot of these 'experiences' happen in old buildings, where old boilers/open fires with dodgy structural integrity are often in place.
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Maybe, but I'm sure by law these places have carbon monoxide detectors which afaik will detect even slight amounts, and why would they leak only some times and not others? It either leaks or it doesn't. I admit I'm not a gas engineer though. I just think there's far more to our existence than we could even comprehend never mind actually learn it.
 
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Maybe, but I'm sure by law these places have carbon monoxide detectors which afaik will detect even slight amounts, and why would they leak only some times and not others? It either leaks or it doesn't. I admit I'm not a gas engineer though. I just think there's far more to our existence than we could even comprehend never mind actually learn it.
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Its nothing to do with being an engineer - its physiological, carbon monoxide binds with hemoglobin to form carboxyhemoglobin in the blood stream. Even small amounts of exposure over time will raise carboxyhemoglobin. The law allows sub 10ppm to be permissible in buildings over a prolonged period and even higher in shorter burst, in some humans (because carboxyhemoglobin build up is not uniform) that is going to cause more advanced health issues such as headaches, hallucinations, sickness.

It's the same old story—here's the well-established scientific explanation for why people experience X, but nope, I'd rather believe in this fantastical story about mythical beings that completely break the laws of thermodynamics instead.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
Its nothing to do with being an engineer - its physiological, carbon monoxide binds with hemoglobin to form carboxyhemoglobin in the blood stream. Even small amounts of exposure over time will raise carboxyhemoglobin. The law allows sub 10ppm to be permissible in buildings over a prolonged period and even higher in shorter burst, in some humans (because carboxyhemoglobin build up is not uniform) that is going to cause more advanced health issues such as headaches, hallucinations, sickness.

It's the same old story—here's the well-established scientific explanation for why people experience X, but nope, I'd rather believe in this fantastical story about mythical beings that completely break the laws of thermodynamics instead
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With all due respect, don't put words into my mouth, I didn't say what I believed in, I simply stated that I believe there is a lot more to existence that science currently explains (please confirm this yourself by re-reading my comments).

Do you really think science has already explained everything there is to know about us, the universe, and existence, etc? There are things we probably can't even comprehend that we don't know about. These are my beliefs and you can't disprove them. Have a great rest of your day :)
 
Tykey said:
With all due respect, don't put words into my mouth, I didn't say what I believed in, I simply stated that I believe there is a lot more to existence that science currently explains (please confirm this yourself by re-reading my comments).

Do you really think science has already explained everything there is to know about us, the universe, and existence, etc? There are things we probably can't even comprehend that we don't know about. These are my beliefs and you can't disprove them. Have a great rest of your day :)
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You've contradicted yourself in this post. Thats a very long way of saying you dont believe in reality .Have a great rest of your day :)
 
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iamtheoneneo said:
You've contradicted yourself in this post. Thats a very long way of saying you dont believe in reality .Have a great rest of your day :)
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I'll butt out after this reply :) So you know what reality is do you?

Do you think your concept of reality, with all the facts you are sure that sums everything up, will be an adequate explanation of reality in say 1000 years? How do you think your concept of reality compares to someone just as sure as you are about reality to what they believed 1000 years ago? Extremely differently.

In many many years to come I bet there will be things discovered that will blow our minds. A gold fish cannot comprehend us humans, the world around it, etc, how do we know the same analogy does not apply to us?

I used to be a strict scientific explanation man like yourself, I know where you're coming from, but now I am not so sure.
 
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when I was a kid, age 8 I think, I was home alone for about an hour, it was the afternoon, just a normal day and I was playing with toys, no worries at all. I swear I heard a child crying upstairs, I sat quietly until my parents got home, told them what I heard as soon as they got back, burst into tears! my stap-dad laughed but went through the motions of checking upstairs anyway. didn't find anything, couldn't explain it. I don't believe those ghost shows, this did traumatise me, was just something that happened that is weird and hard to explain
 
Tykey said:
apologies if someone has mentioned this, i havent read all 7 pages, its possible op had a type of temporary and inexplicable psychotic break. our brains can do wild things for seemingly no reason at times. but what refutes this is op's mate also saying something strange happened, no way could they both had a psychotic break, unless someone slipped a tab of acid into their beers. i used to totally dismiss things like this as silly, but who knows really, imo there is far more to our existence than science can explain.
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I hope I didn't :-) It's just the fact my mate experienced something he couldn't explain, and then the landlady telling us the story after this stuff had happened. All seems a bit odd if you ask me. I've no answer to any of it - but I was definitely sober, and I was definitely awake. It was very creepy!
 
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